From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Mar 9 12: 3:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A24153B6; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:03:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25667; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:03:15 GMT (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:03:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Andrew Reilly , Mike Smith , "Daniel C. Sobral" , Terry Lambert , sos@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, yokota@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GGI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 09:03:57PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Since the voodoo2 is a 3d card, and X is exclusively 2d, I can't quite > > > > see how "supporting" this card actually achieves anything. > > > > > > Isn't the PEX extension some sort of 3D thing? I never hear > > > anyone talk about it, so perhaps there's something wrong with > > > it, but couldn't some sort of 3D acceleration be built around > > > it? > > > > PEX is several years away from the cutting edge of graphics. I'm not sure > > that it even supports texture mapping. A better base for working on 3D > > acceleration is Mesa which is exactly what the guys at Precision Insight > > (www.precisioninsight.com) are doing to create a decent modern 3D solution > > for Linux and BSD. > > Most intriguing...just went through the site, and its another project > "supported by RedHat", and "binary-only"...is anyone from FreeBSD, Inc > approaching them from the *BSD camp? I approached them (on my own behalf) to ask them about BSD support and they are keen. They really are open source people but are attempting to work around the NDA mentality which some of the chip vendors have. Already they have donated the source for some of their servers (NeoMagic and Glint I think) to XFree86 as the vendors relaxed their NDAs. > > Also, and correct me if I'm wrong, but looking at the FAQ, they don't > support 3Dfx/Voodoo2 stuff? I would have thought that those would have > been the first ones that they would have concentrated on, considering how > big they appear to be...? They are trying to build an infrastructure for 3D under XFree86. For various reasons Voodoo1 and Voodoo2 will never be a good platform for an X server. > > The project itself looks promising...hopefully we'll see *BSD binaries > eventually...:) I think we will be able to use this stuff with a minimum effort (porting the small kernel drivers). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message