From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 12 04:03:45 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF12016A4CE for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E95B43D31 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301:200:92ff:fe9b:20e7]) (authenticated bits=0) hBCC3Zvq005783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:03:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [IPv6:3ffe:400:8d0:301::12]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCC3XWK093897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:03:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBCC3X2u081186; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:03:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hBCC3VPO081182; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:03:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:03:30 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: eqe@cox.net Message-ID: <20031212120330.GZ42518@cicely12.cicely.de> References: <200312092243.02269.eqe@cox.net> <1071030635.14355.7.camel@merlin> <20031210111222.k44gcgkgkoskcwkw@www.sweetdreamsracing.biz> <200312102051.36194.eqe@cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200312102051.36194.eqe@cox.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.1-CURRENT alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: Kenneth Culver cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why support alpha?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:45 -0000 On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:51:36PM -0500, eqe@cox.net wrote: > sorry it was my impression that their would be no further versions of alpha > and or at least it's growth is suspect. But I will reseach this now. and > again this email was just a thought about improving freebsd as a whole > nothing more I just found it strange that in 5.2 there would be so much > backward compatability and could not help but wonder for what purpose I would > never build a new server with a 386,486,or 586 for that matter. Embedded and/or industrial PCs. There are many specialized systems available out there with low power consuption, designed out door usage in artic temperatures and so on. Such hardware is usually very expensive and performance of old CPUs is often sufficient - no need to buy new hardware. Especially as 486 CPUs are still produced, but with a much lower size and power consumption then the original 486 - e.g. the AMD Elan SC520. Support for systems without mathematic coprocessor was already dropped. Don't call hardware dead before it really is :) -- B.Walter BWCT http://www.bwct.de ticso@bwct.de info@bwct.de