From nobody Mon Jan 30 16:59:21 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4P5Dt739vWz3bxYR for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Received: from mail.antonovs.family (mail.antonovs.family [100.25.240.195]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.antonovs.family", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4P5Dt64zwnz4H19 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ihor@antonovs.family) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=antonovs.family header.s=20200215 header.b=tzE5DhjP; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ihor@antonovs.family designates 100.25.240.195 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ihor@antonovs.family; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=antonovs.family DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=antonovs.family; s=20200215; t=1675097945; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=isDO+tuXJI5pIkpvZlQN97pdyiDmNz+7EmPOfILAJVM=; b=tzE5DhjPfjSok4/anCMSqZXh5v811mptjwdaW4vAGcYSXfMK1ikwzCFD4nIgfru/KfgBCl 4qULateNgfXr9j8QGR5UYvuChjMj/XmFQMEhuhJFJt0SiPO0OaZeE8QafPG5yYV1gcCBW2 bukuVkTM+RshdEkDxyCusLYyAoApZD8= Received: by mail.antonovs.family (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5630c787 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:59:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5207abe0-9c2b-1424-ac58-d52e97ba7413@antonovs.family> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:59:21 +0000 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 Subject: Re: Tooling Integration and Developer Experience Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <202301300254.30U2sm0k061914@dell.no.berklix.net> <97020cad-f913-2985-2093-e4c23bf671e3@antonovs.family> From: User Ngor In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.989]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[antonovs.family,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[antonovs.family:s=20200215]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[antonovs.family:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14618, ipnet:100.24.0.0/13, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4P5Dt64zwnz4H19 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 1/30/23 10:08, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > ihor@antonovs.family wrote: > >> This can be as easy as moving everything into Phabricator. > There's the issue that Phabricator itself is no longer supported > upstream: > > https://admin.phacility.com/phame/post/view/11/phacility_is_winding_down_operations/ > https://github.com/phacility/phabricator > > I have notes from Oct. 2021 which point to a fork: > > https://we.phorge.it/ > > That fork seems to be somewhat alive. Moving our phab instance > to phorge is probably no trivial task. > Should be no harder than regular update. They even have a HOWTO https://we.phorge.it/w/installation_and_setup/update_from_phabricator/ From operational point of view it requires the least amount of effort, comparing to full-scale migration to any other platform. The Phorge seems to be active, so we can ask them to improve query functionality..(I am an optimist) Overall short-term plan could look like this: 1. Upgrade to Phorge 2. Setup Maniphest for bugs and tasks 3. Migrate bugs into Maniphest 4. Enable Harbormaster (Build/CI) - this requires coordination with whoever is working on pre-commit CI. This should improve things quite a bit already. Long term we can add Ponder and Phriction (Wiki and Q&A) and move current wiki into it too. Infra operations are hard, and I have experience with it. I'd be happy to help. -- Ihor Antonov