From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 11 15:53:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05190 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from mail.uniserve.com (charon.uniserve.com [204.244.163.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA05183 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:53:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by mail.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0xVQ7r-0006a2-00; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:53:43 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Studded cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Old stuff in 2.2.5 In-Reply-To: <199711102311.PAA22738@dragonlair.dal.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Studded wrote: > want to re-open that can of worms. What I AM intersted in is learning > which parts of -stable are out of date (in your opinion, I reserve final > judgement :) and how I can replace them in the easiest possible way. My > reasons for asking this is that with any kind of luck, I'm going to be > installing FreeBSD systems on a commercial level, so I want the best, most > secure systems possible, with the fewest steps. The two main things I out-of-date != insecure > know about are Perl and curses, so with that in mind, I have the following > questions. PLEASE, keep all responses flame free and on topic. > 1. What part or parts of the 2.2.5-Stable code (or 22_releng if you > prefer) do *you* consider out of date, and why? None. Everything works as-is. If I need additional functionaily, I get things out of packages. > 2. What disadvantages does this out of date component (or components) > cause? [I'm aware of the perl problems, but I would love some details on > curses.] perl problems? I'm not aware of any problems with the included perl4. If you require features not in perl4, use perl5, it is package. > 4. Is there an easy way to replace the version of that code that comes > with -stable with the newer version *before* I do make world, so that I > don't need to replace or recompile things in a second step after the make > world is done. There should no need to remove anything. > 5. Related to question 4, I am particularly interested in replacing perl > 4 entirely, since I'm short on hd space (yes I know it's cheap nowadays, > but I'm broke :). Can anyone tell me if replacing the perl sources that > come from the /src directory on the ftp site with perl 5 will accomplish > this, or if I'll have to install perl 5 after the make world. Also, > assuming I will have to do it in 2 steps, what's the easiest way to > delete all of perl 4? perl4 is tiny. You would barely save anything removing it. Tom