From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 9 21:39:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D0B16A401 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwm@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from dukecmmtar01.coxmail.com (dukecmmtar01.coxmail.com [68.99.120.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B3D43D48 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 21:39:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jwm@sentinelchicken.net) Received: from sentinelchicken.net ([70.183.13.213]) by dukecmmtar01.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20060409213950.YEFM7208.dukecmmtar01.coxmail.com@sentinelchicken.net> for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2006 17:39:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 55778 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2006 21:39:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO numbuscus.sentinelchicken.net) (10.0.0.2) by samson.sentinelchicken.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2006 21:39:48 -0000 Received: (nullmailer pid 39937 invoked by uid 1000); Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:39:48 -0000 Resent-From: jwm@sentinelchicken.net Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 17:39:48 -0400 Resent-Message-ID: <20060409213948.GA39930@sentinelchicken.net> Resent-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:38:09 -0400 From: Jason Morgan To: Fred Cox Message-ID: <20060409173809.GC38934@sentinelchicken.net> References: <1144559526.7017.103.camel@leguin> <20060409084623.27913.qmail@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060409084623.27913.qmail@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Re: X troubles (possibly radeon related) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 21:39:54 -0000 On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 01:46:23AM -0700, Fred Cox wrote: > All right, let's start over, knowing that since this > is all going through the mailing list, the archives > will save me if Yahoo is snippy. > > Currently, I am in the position of not being able to > upgrade my ports, due to the machine being unusable in > short order if I start Xorg 6.9.0. > > I don't feel comfortable in this position, since I am > not able to easily incorporate security fixes or > feature upgrades for any ports. > > I don't think I'm the only person in this situation, > from what I've found searching the web. > > It's my understanding that the drivers are part of the > kernel. The output of a make buildkernel seems to > confirm that understanding. > > One of my attempts to figure out what was killing my > system was to not upgrade the kernel from FreeBSD 6.0 > release, but to upgrade the ports. That, and every > other setup I tried that involved upgrading Xorg, > killed my system. > > Perhaps my ignorance of exactly how Xorg works is > confusing me, but this seems to point to Xorg 6.9.0's > interaction with the radeon driver, not the radeon > driver, which I don't believe I upgraded. > > If the 6.8.2 code can work with the FreeBSD 6.0 > release radeon driver for the X300 chipset, but 6.9.0 > doesn't, it seems that a little investigation can > point to a quick solution. However, the people who > have the knowledge will need to work with the people > who have the hardware and the willingness to help > investigate. > > If this is faulty logic, please point out where it's > wrong, so that more people can understand the system. > > Fred > [cut the rest of the conversation] So, I take it I'm out of luck until the driver is fixed? Even though I'm running an Xpress 200M? Is that actually a X300 in disguise? Is the only work-around to go back to 6.8.2? I don't have a lot of time, but I can help troubleshoot any patches if that will help. ~Jason