From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 15 18:54:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3339FDF0 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:54:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott4long@yahoo.com) Received: from nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F621362 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:54:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.125] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:54:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Apr 2013 18:54:13 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1366052053; bh=V/xNCL3BbI6r2ZxwodymFOu0kCpQSC5l15IWEoXIFuY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=yi8RhwxL3JQK9oCGh7IytdVXfuFbUZGL2EZvauipAU3wLC3qIvbbXK9CGgzN7XrOICiKA5uC8o4oWP2NHNj37ZilhtRFVXBChGKQ0z3D7VeVw0ytI5gjuzBHWvbCerTOXjS2sOiIqt4wLZtC+Ine6z/vecLx7otht69QnKmDQLY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 804993.13129.bm@smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: WHZN.SwVM1kdI99PkbAVnxVr4v78xA4Xst1WwRVWlnXYzFa fFQ7iAMZ.UO514xAUrqi2hMg4JpihDswZopfd6SkiJSt5aau7BWuO4tHzDJb ly8Ra0939r0uL40lezOFSY0O_itQTqYtvuN6DL6A0INy6x32vhSsvIPZ2TX8 6WYPB7wdC7PQoK.BRAlpRw9fQklMknXKmkOYV8PpjJYrM7uD80hmtm2mCF3h .k9hpZrb.xxgaPMQiFoXwjcFyoS8KfyjbHWgjrEwMInucKoPFbdtgcT34dHW 48ExickgcGfDMlhm7BLwUMjj.0ztsSKovW2BIkYY.AoaO5oqyr16uVokvTqq clbWezqNHjWX6cTTRiMKzgiqY7Vn7qLUrA0L1VdkxUWsLSBhbExcJ0hV7iBV N.x07rdnVGOLEf1lvydEW4Wl4LQauVHkcm2iq2Aelc6QIcQeNOav8vJv9U8p hJFobkO8UJZOi X-Yahoo-SMTP: clhABp.swBB7fs.LwIJpv3jkWgo2NU8- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.254.206] (scott4long@168.103.85.57 with plain) by smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2013 11:54:13 -0700 PDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer From: Scott Long In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:54:12 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <18DF99B0-6E66-4906-A233-7778451B8A92@felyko.com> <201304151748.r3FHmhC3002734@slippy.cwsent.com> To: "Sam Fourman Jr." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: Warren Block , "current@freebsd.org" , Chris Rees , Rui Paulo , "net@freebsd.org" , Cy Schubert , "cpet@sdf.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:54:21 -0000 The desire to remove it stems from the inability to give it adequate = engineering=20 service as the network stack evolves. Simply taking it out of a kernel = config file doesn't address that problem at all. If it's going to stay in FreeBSD = at all, it needs to be maintained. This could be set about a fair amount of stuff = in FreeBSD, but IPFilter stands out since there's a high rate of needed change = happening in the network stack, and it shouldn't be left to rot nor to be a stumbling = block for those changes. Scott On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:49 PM, "Sam Fourman Jr." = wrote: > Thank you to those that have expressed interest in maintaining IP = Filter.. >=20 > My thoughts are, could we consider putting a option in the kernel = config, > and leaving it off by default for GENERIC? > I think this is a acceptable compromise, considering some people wish = for > it to be removed. >=20 > Sam Fourman Jr. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cy Schubert = wrote: >=20 >> In message <18DF99B0-6E66-4906-A233-7778451B8A92@felyko.com>, Rui = Paulo >> writes: >>> 2013/04/15 9:55=E3=80=81Cy Schubert = =E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=83=E3=82=BB=E3=83=BC=E3=82=B8: >>>=20 >>>> I've been planning on taking on IP Filter for quite some time. >>>> Unfortunately I've left my src commit bit lapse (my ports commit = bit is >>>> alive and well though) thus I'm looking for a mentor. In addition = I'm >>>> working on an ACER WMI/ACPI kld. One mentor would be preferred but = two >>>> would be fine too. >>>=20 >>> What are your plans regarding ipfilter? I remain unconvinced that it >> should b >>> e in the base system. Perhaps you can work on it as a port? >>=20 >> The initial plan was to import IP Filter 5.1.2 into HEAD. darrenr@ = hadn't >> done much with IPF while employed with Sun. Since then there has been = some >> development that is long overdue for HEAD. >>=20 >> I'm not sure if I'd MFC it into 9 or not. >>=20 >> I did consider a port but given it would has to touch bits and pieces = of >> the source tree (/usr/src), a port would be messy and the decision = was made >> to work on importing it into base. >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Why do you want to work on something that people have been trying to >> remove s >>> ince 2005? >>=20 >> I and others have been using it in FreeBSD for over decade. For the = longest >> of time we'd use a common set of rules across a FreeBSD and Solaris = farm >> (using ipfmeta, makefiles, rsync, rdist, and a local CVS repo). >> Interoperability with other systems which use IP Filter is a plus. If >> there's a maintainer, it only makes FreeBSD richer. Losing IP Filter = would >> be a loss. >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Cheers, >> Cy Schubert >> FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Sam Fourman Jr. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"