From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 8 22:48:49 2004 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFEC16A4CE for <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:48:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out001.email.savvis.net (out001.apptix.savvis.net [216.91.32.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36AF43D2D for <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:48:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Maksim.Yevmenkin@savvis.net) Received: from s228130hz1ew03.apptix-01.savvis.net ([10.146.4.28]) by out001.email.savvis.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:48:50 -0500 Received: from [10.254.186.111] ([66.35.239.94]) by s228130hz1ew03.apptix-01.savvis.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:48:49 -0500 Message-ID: <413F8C4E.5040704@savvis.net> Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 15:48:46 -0700 From: Maksim Yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040822 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Forrest Aldrich <forrie@forrie.com> References: <413F6BBE.1050202@forrie.com> <413F745F.3020306@savvis.net> <413F79DC.1010204@comcast.net> <413F7C7F.2070603@savvis.net> <413F8782.5000606@forrie.com> In-Reply-To: <413F8782.5000606@forrie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2004 22:48:50.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[01FABEC0:01C495F6] cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VoIP and IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD <freebsd-net.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net>, <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-net@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net>, <mailto:freebsd-net-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2004 22:48:49 -0000 Forrest Aldrich wrote: > I'm also speaking of specific ipfw configuration to support this > functionality (QoS, traffic shaping, etc)... i do not use any of it, and, i do not think it is even required. normally cable/dsl links are asymmetrical, so your outbound is already capped at 128k or whatever. inbound is whatever speed you have. i have 2mbit. at this speed i can run speed test (from dslreports.com) and talk on the phone at the same time and hardly notice anything. sometimes things may get bad for a few seconds (like bad cell phone), but normally it will recover. if you really want to do shaping then use dummynet(4). just create a pipe between vonage servers and your box and set it up the way you like. btw, a friend of mine uses vonage behind his smc barricade router. seems to work just fine. he said he did not have to open anything on the router. max