Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 13:00:22 -0800 From: richard childers <fscked@pacbell.net> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: Peter Baitz <peterb@themonetgroup.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@FreeBSD.ORG, jhk@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@FreeBSD.ORG, dfr@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG, rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD issues at iServer!!! Message-ID: <3AA009E6.C7BA6094@pacbell.net> References: <000701c0a22d$fa217aa0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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"There's plenty of other ISP's in the book that can provide rock-solid reliable hosting services on FreeBSD, such as us, so that you don't have to deal with a bottom-feeder ..." I couldn't pass this up. -- richard Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Well, Peter, as I work for an ISP that competes in one of > Verio's markets, I have an answer for you but your probably > not going to like it, nor are you going to like my recommendations > as to how to fix it. > > First of all, Iserver became unprofitable and ran out of money and > was acquired by Verio in 1998. In case you don't know this, > Iserver is a brand of Verio's, just like Oldsmobile is a brand > of General Motors. By now, any vestige of the original company has > undoubtedly long since been erased. > > Next, Verio became unprofitable and ran out of money and was > acquired by the Japanese-owned NTT Communications. > > Apparently the influx of cash from NTT hasn't helped them pull > it out, because instead of buckling down and doing some honest > work to improve themselves, they decided it was easier to file > a slimy lawsuit against register.com. You can see how dim a view the > court took of this here: > > http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article/0,1471,8471_532131,00.html > > when they issued an injunction against it - and you can see NTT/Verio's > response, which was to spam register.com customers here: > > http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article/0,,3_531911,00.html > > All in all the long and short of it is your buying hosting services > from a company that has grown far too fast for it's own good by > what appears to be deceptive marketing practices, and now your > swallowing the lie (probably engineered by them) that FreeBSD is to > blame for their troubles. > > There's plenty of other ISP's in the book that can provide rock-solid > reliable hosting services on FreeBSD, such as us, so that you don't > have to deal with a bottom-feeder virtual hosting company like NTT/Verio. > Instead of trying to get people here, many of whom work for much > better run ISP's than NTT/Verio and who are competitors of NTT/Verio, to > help NTT/Verio help you, why don't you try letting NTT/Verio know how happy > you are with their unreliable service by voting with your feet? > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Baitz > >Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:48 AM > >To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG; asami@FreeBSD.ORG; dg@FreeBSD.ORG; > >jhk@FreeBSD.ORG; grog@FreeBSD.ORG; imp@FreeBSD.ORG; dfr@FreeBSD.ORG; > >msmith@FreeBSD.ORG; rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG; peter@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: FreeBSD issues at iServer!!! > > > > > >Hello, > > > >I'm not quite sure how to classify this email I am sending to you at the > >FreeBSD project site. However, I am looking for input, and wondering > >from your perspective what can be done, if anything. Perhaps you guys > >even know someone at iServer (http://www.iserver.com).... > > > >We use iServer servers for hosting web sites. They used to use BSD/OS > >and have switched over to FreeBSD and we were at first excited, but the > >excitement has become huge frustration. > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 > > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > >reserved. > >FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE (VKERN) #0: Wed Feb 21 16:54:55 MST 2001 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > >Their FreeBSD servers seem incapable of staying UP more than a handful > >or two of days, with many servers down every few days. We cannot get a > >reasonable explanation of why. We are in short very unhappy with the > >FreeBSD/OS at this time because of it. > > > >Now I know that flies in the face of the FreeBSD organization's motto of > >being built by a Board of Directors and core groups of organized people, > >leading to a stable OS. Well at iServer I have not found that to be > >true, sadly. I don't know what is wrong. Maybe you guys can set them > >straight, because it is harming the FreeBSD persona. iServer is a great > >company, but I think they need some help. > > > >Thanks! > >pb > > > >PS: Don't tell them I told you so, thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Richard A. 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