From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 21 18: 7: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58E537C1F2; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net) Received: from hacker (hutch-359.hutchtel.net [206.10.68.59]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA20120; Fri, 21 Jul 2000 20:05:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001701bff378$da4b5b60$3b440ace@hacker> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: "Lawrence Cotnam Jr." , , References: Subject: Re: No help... Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 20:04:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Cotnam Jr." To: ; Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 11:58 PM Subject: No help... > I'm most disappointed. I've been running FreeBSD since version 2, and in > all this time I've never experience the total lack of any assistance from > the userbase. In the past, I've received good advice and help regarding > FreeBSD-small for embedded systems, which my company has used for our > embedded server product. But now... In the past 3 months, I've posted two > very serious issues I've experienced and the first issue, regarding Bus > Mastering SiS 5591 PCI IDE controller going into UDMA mode receive *ZERO* > replies. Nothing. And now... my troubles with a 3COM 3C509 NIC has > received one (rather useless, but thank you Julian. I appreciate your > input, even if it had nothing to do with the problem) reply. This is just > so disappointing. I've been using this operating system for about 5 years > and I used to love it. The support used to be wonderful. The hardware > support used to be wonderful. Now... its not. I can't get any of you folks > to so much as offer any suggestions (excepting Julian) to my questions, even > when I supply ample information regarding the problem, and attempted > solutions. I've jumped ship. > > After 10 hours of hard work, I successfully migrated my entire server to > Debian Linux, which I must say, the legacy hardware support is there. Like > FreeBSD used to be. I wish you all well, but I won't be back with FreeBSD > any time soon. Not only has the eroding legacy hardware support been a > great disappointment, the lack of any userbase input regarding my troubles > with such legacy hardware has been even more disappointing. I sorrows me to > have to file away 5 years of know how and experience with this what used to > be wonderful operating system, but the support is gone, the legacy drivers > are flaky at best. > > Lawrence Cotnam Jr. > (775) 337-2536 > email: larry@pkunk.net > > If I read this correctly, you are saying that past versions of FreeBSD supported hardware that new versions don't. Why not stick with those? I've got a machine that I run 2.1.5 on just because it still supports my Future Domain 850 8bit SCSI controller. (3.x dropped support for this "wonderful" piece of hardware) I know I could spend about $40 and get a new SCSI controller that is better in every way, but this one does what I need it to do. To be honest with you, though, I would rather see some support for new stuff added then to see effort wasted on an obsolete piece of junk that has no business being used in anything, let alone a server. Out with the old, in with the new. Josh aka "Legacy Man" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message