From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 14 18:00:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D10BD05 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62015B68 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:00:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: by igbos3 with SMTP id os3so4234619igb.0 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:00:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=M3QTLMqz84HVSl2spKpbxdUQ2e94gs0OVTKv798T1cc=; b=j2VjRIqspXStE1kcLGpuqOtU1ZzNUc8fMeEMu/XOmnT0ePINUII3LWiIg4YXkUBcCs DRk0INuVqNXKc2Y0x8IDZZIPZUlB/q5m1vBhCDreUfSX8iZsHkqRkXU5+bZKbjMf3Aug Q5u5nT7/xf1RrrXIz4EvOskhKXk305DJa+YK1GIryzzJ8kWWKzoY9TCeMBzhtv5ioYqy Td8LOh82H21OO9degiQPoOJjekO7sHRnlHoe9idj33MdAgJwGvL8eh01LwPhobOAzh/b mvOioDRxGRT2t3lWwVd2lVKRaxc7Ki5nC6GLvvYTq96GcfmiZsVEg4ltuGiXDX+Yae5Y VPzg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnzlXHsosvsSmVcjAPP9qFm5P9jmG2XIA1LoDoN8OirTNUJXRFIe8UijeyHcRCLBbSdLKer X-Received: by 10.50.138.232 with SMTP id qt8mr16225871igb.28.1434304834703; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netflix-mac.bsdimp.com ([50.253.99.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p17sm5855095igr.15.2015.06.14.11.00.33 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jun 2015 11:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: svn commit: r284198 - head/bin/ls Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5F3316E3-6E41-457F-BB53-C7399C1BDDA7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:00:34 -0400 Cc: Steve Kargl , Marcel Moolenaar , Marcel Moolenaar , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" Message-Id: References: <201506100127.t5A1RdX6051959@svn.freebsd.org> <20150612204309.11dd3391@kan> <20150613024916.GA98218@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <1434208622.1415.57.camel@freebsd.org> <557C661F.8080104@freebsd.org> <860017ED-D754-450C-865D-2D81A30C2212@xcllnt.net> <20150614002640.GA2746@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: Craig Rodrigues X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:00:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_5F3316E3-6E41-457F-BB53-C7399C1BDDA7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jun 13, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Craig Rodrigues = wrote: >=20 > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Steve Kargl = wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 05:13:31PM -0700, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > For people who are trying to build FreeBSD-based embedded products = with > > modern web UI's, > > this is *really* useful. > > >=20 > Given the bloat caused by libxo, which I showed in March, > I don't see how people working on embedded products could > be thrilled with this. >=20 > Steve, >=20 > For people building embedded products these days, > storage of gigabytes and even terabytes is often available, Often, but not always. The bloat is another issue with libxo. It=E2=80=99s= a problem for the embedded routers that Adrian has been pushing. It is a problem = with many of the embedded boards I have. It isn=E2=80=99t too big of a = problem with RPi and the like because SD cards are a lot easier to upgrade than chip-down NAND Flash parts. > so the space increase that libxo provides is not that big a problem, > at least for the last few products that I have worked on in the past = few years. You are working on fairly big embedded. 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