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Date:      Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:23:16 +0100
From:      Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org>
To:        Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
Cc:        "'Rick Knebel'" <rknebel@uplink.net>, "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Updating KDE (was: kscd)
Message-ID:  <19990926012316.E2759@marder-1>
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On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 06:11:41PM -0400, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> Rick,
> So you didn't update your ports collection in any way?  That would be why
> it's still downloading 1.1.1.  You need to keep /usr/ports up to date for
> you to keep up with any changes.
> 
> I belive you could also use /stand/sysinstall and download the pre-built
> (packages) but overall I think it's better to learn CVSup anyway.
> 
> I'm going to make the assumption you are running 3.x here.  Take a look at 
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html
> and
> http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/synching.html
> 

Also check out John Polstra's site

http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html

> If you are confused about this, #1 look at the mailing list archives, and #2
> ask the mailing list.  This topic was beat to death maybe 2 months ago.
> 
> Good luck,
> Chris
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Rick Knebel [SMTP:rknebel@uplink.net]
> > Sent:	Saturday, September 25, 1999 5:40 PM
> > To:	Christopher Michaels
> > Subject:	Re: Updating KDE (was: kscd)
> > 
> > On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 05:30:54PM -0400, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> > > How did you do that?  Did you cvsup to update your ports?
> > > 
> > > Take a look in /usr/ports/x11/kdelibs11/Makefile and see what version it
> > is
> > > supposed to be downloading.  If it says kdelibs-1.1.1 and not
> > kdelibs-1.1.2
> > > than something didn't update properly.
> > 
> > 
> > No I did not cvsup, but I keep hearing about this.
> > how do i do this?
> > 
> > Thaaaanks
> > Rick
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > > -Chris
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:	Rick Knebel [SMTP:rknebel@uplink.net]
> > > > Sent:	Saturday, September 25, 1999 5:18 PM
> > > > To:	Christopher Michaels
> > > > Subject:	Re: kscd
> > > > 
> > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 04:57:15PM -0400, Christopher Michaels wrote:
> > > > > Rick,
> > > > > That doesn't work.  If you were to type 'kscd -h' you'd find out
> > that -d
> > > > is
> > > > > debug mode not an option for decice naming (assuming it didn't core
> > > > dump).
> > > > > What you need to do is edit the kscdrc as stated in the e-mail that
> > I
> > > > > forwarded to you.
> > > > > 
> > > > > (I found the -d thing out the hard way.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -Chris
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe you can help me with another problem.
> > > > 
> > > > I had kde 1.1.1 runnning so i uninstalled it all and downloaded the
> > > > metaport
> > > > for kde-1.1.2.
> > > > 
> > > > When it starts downloading things it starts with kde-libs1.1.1 which
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > old version.
> > > > 
> > > > Am I missing something?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Rick
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > P.S. The kscd with 1.1.2 actually doesn't core dump but gave an
> > error
> > > > > opening the device.  You may want to consider upgrading kde if you
> > > > haven't
> > > > > already.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:	Rick Knebel [SMTP:rknebel@uplink.net]
> > > > > > Sent:	Saturday, September 25, 1999 4:16 PM
> > > > > > To:	Christopher Michaels
> > > > > > Subject:	Re: kscd
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 04:12:10PM -0400, Christopher Michaels
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Rick,
> > > > > > > Ok, my bad...
> > > > > > > How did you assign a device?  And what device did you assign it?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I start xcdplayer i do xcdplayer -device /dev/racd0c
> > > > > > so for kscd -d /dev/racd0c
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Rick
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  -Chris
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From:	Rick Knebel [SMTP:rknebel@uplink.net]
> > > > > > > > Sent:	Saturday, September 25, 1999 4:06 PM
> > > > > > > > To:	Christopher Michaels
> > > > > > > > Subject:	Re: kscd
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 04:04:54PM -0400, Christopher Michaels
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > This was JUST covered a couple days ago.  I'm attaching the
> > last
> > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > that thread.
> > > > > > > > I appreciate your reply, but that does not tell me anything
> > else.
> > > > > > > > i saicdin my message I already tried assigning a device.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Rick
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  <<Re: KSCD...>> 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From:	Rick Knebel [SMTP:rknebel@uplink.net]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent:	Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:18 PM
> > > > > > > > > > To:	questions@freebsd.org
> > > > > > > > > > Subject:	kscd
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Whats with kscd. It core dumps every time I use it even if
> > i
> > > > > > assign a
> > > > > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > Rick
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > > Rick Knebel
> > > > > > > > > > rknebel@uplink.net
> > > > > > > > > > http://rknebel.uplink.net
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > > > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Content-Description: Re: KSCD...
> > > > > > > > > Message-ID: <19990922175532.A279@marder-1>
> > > > > > > > > From: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org>
> > > > > > > > > To: Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
> > > > > > > > > Cc: "FreeBSD Questions (E-mail)" <questions@FreeBSD.org>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: KSCD...
> > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:55:32 -0400
> > > > > > > > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > > > > > > > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0)
> > > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > > > > > > > > 	charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 08:26:01PM -0400, Christopher
> > Michaels
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Mark,
> > > > > > > > > > I'm not the original posted, but THANK YOU!  I found all
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > below
> > > > > > > > info
> > > > > > > > > > in the mailing list archives about a month ago, except for
> > > > what
> > > > > > > > exactly
> > > > > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > > > to go in the rc file.  Mine was blank just as you had
> > > > described,
> > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > gave up on it for the time being.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder if the maintainer of the port should print some
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > the end of a 'make install' to this effect, or if it could
> > be
> > > > put
> > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > FAQ
> > > > > > > > > > somewhere.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well something should be done (I'm not overly concerned
> > myself
> > > > > > > > > because I don't use it anymore) because the program core
> > dumping
> > > > > > > > > just because the wrong CD device is specifed is *bad*. At
> > least
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > > message along the lines of "/dev/rmatcd0: device not found.
> > Try
> > > > > > > > > using the -d option to specify the correct device" would
> > point
> > > > all
> > > > > > > > > but a very few people to the solution. Of course, using a
> > > > sensible
> > > > > > > > > default device would be sensible as well, ideally /dev/rwcd0
> > > > since
> > > > > > > > > most users will have ATAPI CD-ROMs.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > -Chris
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From:	Mark Ovens [SMTP:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent:	Tuesday, September 21, 1999 4:07 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > To:	Luis Rios
> > > > > > > > > > > Cc:	'questions@freebsd.org'
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject:	Re: KSCD...
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 02:57:11PM -0400, Luis Rios
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I've just recently installed FreeBSD3.2 on a pentium
> > 166
> > > > with
> > > > > > 64M
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > ram
> > > > > > > > > > > > along with KDE. The problem lies when I try to access
> > the
> > > > CD
> > > > > > > > players
> > > > > > > > > app
> > > > > > > > > > > > (KSCD) . Everytime I try to run it starts, stops, and
> > then
> > > > > > dumps
> > > > > > > > > core..
> > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > only thing that I can think of is the device for the
> > > > CD-ROM is
> > > > > > > > > incorrect
> > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > PNP is not enabled (I removed it from the kernel). Has
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > problem or are things just not configured correctly??
> > Any
> > > > > > advice
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > hints
> > > > > > > > > > > > would be greatly appreciated....
> > > > > > > > > > > > I installed KDE via pkg_add...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
> > > > > > > > > > > Why can't the KDE "fix" this? kscd uses rmatcd0 as its
> > > > default
> > > > > > CD
> > > > > > > > > > > device. This is the proprietry Matsushita/Panasonic
> > > > interface.
> > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > > > > > from the days of 2x drives. Who uses *those* anymore?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, either start it with ``-dev
> > > > /dev/<your_raw_cd_device>''
> > > > > > (I
> > > > > > > > > > > think that is the correct option, it may just be ``-d
> > > > > > /dev/.....''.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Better still, add the following to
> > > > ~/.kde/share/config/kscdrc
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > [General]
> > > > > > > > > > > CDDevice=/dev/cd0c
> > > > > > > > > > >               ^^^^
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Change this to suit. ISTR that someone said that it
> > needs to
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > the raw device for IDE CD-ROMs but I'm not sure, mine's
> > > > SCSI.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > There is a catch-22 with kscd, the kscdrc file is empty
> > > > until
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > run kscd the first time, once you get it started you can
> > add
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > above line via the options menu, but you can't start
> > kscd
> > > > until
> > > > > > > > > > > you know how to specify the correct device :-/
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please reply to the sending address as I am not
> > currently
> > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > mailing
> > > > > > > > > > > > list...
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks..
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
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