From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 21 20:44:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23438 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23424 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:43:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA52430; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:43:41 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199812220443.UAA52430@apollo.backplane.com> To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, bde@zeta.org.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I almost hate to suggest this... References: <81421.914056557@zippy.cdrom.com> <22994.914083025@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> > mount_foo should almost never be used directly. It should be in /libexec :> :> Then why have mount_foo at all? : :Please don't remove mount_foo. I've been able to save several installations :by using mount_nfs directly from a nearby FreeBSD box (and have been unable :to use the fixit floppy because of floppy drive problems). : :Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no Just a quick side note: Many people forget that FreeBSD can boot into single user via a CDRom drive. *NOT* the BIOS here, the kernel. That is, if you have broken your system but you can still get a boot: prompt and load a kernel (from floppy or the HD), if you boot with the -C option from the boot: prompt and have the 'live filesystem' CDRom (CDRom #2 in the distribution set, I believe) in the CDRom drive, the system will come up single user with the CDRom mounted as root without mounting the hard drive (beyond possibly loading the kernel from it, that is). This makes it phenominally easy to fix a hard drive. Most of the time, the /kernel image on the HD still works and you don't even need a floppy based kernel! CDRom drives are extremely inexpensive these days: usually around $50 and I've started hearing friends say they've seen them down to $25. It is well worth having one installed even if you have an old BIOS that cannot boot directly from it. -Matt Matthew Dillon Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet Communications & God knows what else. (Please include original email in any response) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message