From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Wed Dec 4 23:00:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A3D1B15A1 for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:00:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gordonzaft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com (mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47SvSs4qvfz4STj for ; Wed, 4 Dec 2019 23:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gordonzaft@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe2c.google.com with SMTP id p21so1001687vsq.6 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 15:00:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=r6K7lf31ZR4sMJcGgscuv8jaKhYnBZqUEI5XS+XV8jk=; b=i68kYWgDfCM/7KxVuFQCgJoL2nV4CNza5cLMWnFVzp3NJFGbYktHnRZrusmSLusWdg P8mu2F52gGpi4meGx7/OKm3SmD0s9Ff5ov2D4wezXtJdFAr85O6Lh4VOnZ7j/ethnqve UflAHLPdZ4yo2PcJVsgWe2B/f0Za4XiEVDTKPD6Gmwmvz1QNHygBmjydTT1tfJqMId0X rYgxCOH1MFIFjx9eK0xKeEYEXEY8Kn/AEUCMq3VVD8Qo5KS4flbfmRhDZ2omLOt+pRJM JmBUraU1LzP5anyvE0VeG5QVEhrIeARwIvEzQYXQ8Wv7r49sMnsdkdYfbPx9HN2bJbUD TVig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=r6K7lf31ZR4sMJcGgscuv8jaKhYnBZqUEI5XS+XV8jk=; b=kpyVqj2lNLyeDeiKkbFSiwRiWqinZZAffrkUoNHToajlvA7xUWiLV5+PS08nc8hyd3 yd/qoeTDnjjkda8KaDabKcp/pipDBOguvckyCl+WwqHq7ms9BlXfe/pkJ0GVQr2naqQ0 0KLSayq301RUIYlFwfCfkN5OL5dF+mb+TgF2pQK0zUWVDftEOPJM1sZmDiDh/wHrTPzw OVRCXlahr0BpeyHtDT3hxiPvCpnRVRa7c2PNX4iTi/xnwz72Si7x38mVMoxoUKIr66zW FZRpaf322lcDv4isL0zFnITPHeNUUvn3T85Ktzy0mZ8jHboIDXY0cm3y5cuc8w906xan 2UzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWLybgvySZN56/O68qCfvHpnw/Cm7nMbeSVYIzO1oD1B+FQqtD7 FMzhlepHk6VyHnYA+tQUqIER3A40P/YFDQzTW3EnbQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzvspcCaS/dTpR66mpdqEM4TqVmOsKbh+9PVkIG1+SbgsMFqld+mV549BGakLjPw6+1sogepHqreHvjpcNWgUY= X-Received: by 2002:a67:bd0d:: with SMTP id y13mr3301161vsq.125.1575500411686; Wed, 04 Dec 2019 15:00:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20191203181148.GA24129@lonesome.com> <20495159-605f-c0eb-bd26-4daaab2024a2@sorbs.net> In-Reply-To: <20495159-605f-c0eb-bd26-4daaab2024a2@sorbs.net> From: Gordon Zaft Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 16:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Sparc64 and FreeBSD 13.0 To: Michelle Sullivan Cc: Chris Ross , Mark Linimon , freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47SvSs4qvfz4STj X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=i68kYWgD; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gordonzaft@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e2c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gordonzaft@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[c.2.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.71), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.23), asn: 15169(-1.93), country: US(-0.05)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2019 23:00:14 -0000 I am still interested in using this platform but doubt I have the skills and time to deal with something like a compiler upgrade. G On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 5:08 AM Michelle Sullivan wrote= : > Chris Ross wrote: > > > >> On Dec 3, 2019, at 13:11, Mark Linimon wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 05:53:28AM -0500, Ed Maste wrote: > >>> I have received some private mail about addressing the compiler > >>> situation on sparc64, but not the other issues tracked as dependencie= s > >>> in PR228919. > >> I personally don't intend to spend cycles working on sparc64 in the > >> future. > >> > >> As one of the last people who was supporting it, I think it's fair to > >> say that sparc64 has dropped below critical mass. > > I was an active user, but lack of support for more modern spare > processors and the lack of active use have caused me to step away too. I= f > I had the time to look into porting T1/T2/etc support, and try to get the > compiler working, I=E2=80=99d love to have the results. But I do not. > > > > I don't have the skills or I'd do it. > > -- > Michelle Sullivan > http://www.mhix.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > --=20 Gordon Zaft gordonzaft@gmail.com