From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 26 23:12:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D9B4AE3; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from esa-annu.net.uoguelph.ca (esa-annu.mail.uoguelph.ca [131.104.91.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC712591; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:12:41 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAN4plVKDaFve/2dsb2JhbABZgz9Tgnq4CYE/dIIlAQEEASNLCwUWDgoCAg0ZAiM2BhMJh2YDCQYNrkWIdA2IDBeBKYEzihCBPwEBGzQHgmuBSAOJQoxnjDaCD4U5gWqBXB6BNTk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.93,778,1378872000"; d="scan'208";a="72610680" Received: from muskoka.cs.uoguelph.ca (HELO zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca) ([131.104.91.222]) by esa-annu.net.uoguelph.ca with ESMTP; 26 Nov 2013 18:12:40 -0500 Received: from zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zcs3.mail.uoguelph.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E4FB3F1A; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:12:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:12:40 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Macklem To: Joshuah Hurst Message-ID: <931003215.21443193.1385507560325.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Alternate Data Stream Support in FreeBSD (was Re: O_XATTR support in FreeBSD?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [172.17.91.203] X-Mailer: Zimbra 7.2.1_GA_2790 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/7.2.1_GA_2790) Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Cedric Blancher , Freebsd hackers list , Richard Yao , Jordan Hubbard , Lionel Cons X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:12:42 -0000 Joshuah Hurst wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Rick Macklem > wrote: > > Cedric Blancher wrote: > >> On 26 November 2013 13:27, Lionel Cons > >> wrote: > > The NFSv4 working group seems to have decided to add support for > > atomically > > set extended attributes (Linux, FreeBSD style) to a future minor > > revision, > > due to it not being possible to accurately emulate them with named > > attributes. > > ABSOLUTELY not. Any such attempt will be voted down, as of NetApp, > Oracle, and others. The extended attributes are nonstandard and not > even backed by ANY other standard (e.g. POSIX, Single UNIX Standard). > This will not happen, except for vendor-specific extensions not part > of any NFSv4 RFC. > > Whatever shit or FUD Linux may invent, Linux-style extended > attributes > will NOT be part of the official NFS4.x *standard* > Well, here's a url for one of the messages in the mailing list thread. Several people from Netapp and Oracle participate in the working group and I don't see them complaining about it in the mailing list thread. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/nfsv4/current/msg12498.html You are welcome to join the working group mailing list and comment, rick > Josh >