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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:54:53 -0000 Hi Julian, Thank you for your feedback. I'm not affraid of some scripting, ill try to make some time and dig into the ng stuff :) Regards, Ruben On 27/02/2018 22:16, Julian Elischer wrote: > On 26/2/18 8:13 pm, Harry Schmalzbauer wrote: >> >> >> If you're happy with your setup, I don't think you gain anything from >> switching to ng_bridge(4), besides learning to control netgraph(4) >> (which is very desirable imho). >> I haven't had time left to do useful benchmarking regarding ng_bridge(4) >> vs. if_bridge(4). I even don't know if netgraph nodes are still limited >> to single threads. > > depends on the node.. teh framework allows many threads to traverse it > at a time > but some nodes have resources that need guarding.