From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 24 16:15:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mandree.no-ip.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CC3567 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:15:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mandree@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9816E23CE96 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:15:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51777887.4000908@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:15:35 +0200 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing References: <20130422051452.GA2148@icarus.home.lan> <51763BF9.2000506@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <51763BF9.2000506@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:15:08 -0000 Am 23.04.2013 09:44, schrieb Alexander Motin: > Let me disagree. bootverbose keeps dmesg readable for average user, > while quirks are specific driver workarounds and their names may confuse > more then really help. If every driver print its quirks, dmesg would be > two times bigger. There is bootverbose for it. quirks print hardware shortcomings that FreeBSD is working around, it is useful both to reassure users that FreeBSD is aware of the issues as well as give them a hint not to buy the same hardware if the quirks have too severe an impact (like NCQ unusable).