Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 00:37:50 -0500 From: "Isaac (.ike) Levy" <ike@blackskyresearch.net> To: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> Cc: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how long to keep support for gcc on x86? Message-ID: <1358141882-9913399.7005672.fr0E5boZM001313@rs149.luxsci.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGE5yCpjMNt=EXM3PonPfmDtfbdQK2f-v=MDOK3wpSoX73N_TQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <20130112233147.GK1410@funkthat.com> <20130113014242.GA61609@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <CAJ-VmomrSFXcZg%2BKj6C2ARhpmjB9hxZATYJyRZB7-eRrcBLprg@mail.gmail.com> <20130113053725.GL1410@funkthat.com> <CAJ-VmomGKayr-1VucfwgodhXEHrXxx8r=9crHZJf74iVKZyTmQ@mail.gmail.com> <20130113202952.GO1410@funkthat.com> <CAGE5yCpB8dHLn0TaW=r0Ov39owOQVi=X5FFw%2BuQ=qZ9zYi5anA@mail.gmail.com> <20130113224800.GS1410@funkthat.com> <50F33B02.6040303@freebsd.org> <CAJ-Vmo=wz0Z5q27QDaxT7jskBoO9vG_BNwRNA6xizhmSmU-aEA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGE5yCoFgC02qYfgAmA6Apd7Q3CrOOGnPAVT-Jbk13iw_Cmw2Q@mail.gmail.com> <1358132522-7259997.45478983.fr0E31thR008892@rs149.luxsci.com> <CAGE5yCpaGV0Jg9_XwfJ0bmn2zbcNy1R4ADGDOnj4YPugGr=DXg@mail.gmail.com> <1358138282-2386446.18050069.fr0E4bAqb011623@rs149.luxsci.com> <CAGE5yCpjMNt=EXM3PonPfmDtfbdQK2f-v=MDOK3wpSoX73N_TQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 14, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Peter Wemm wrote: >> Hrm, I *believe* the Geode CPU's on a number of the PcEngines ALIX = boards actually do, and the Soekris 5501 seems to as well. >=20 > Nope. They have AES on the die, but its not the AES-NI that's the > topic here. AES-NI was added in 2010 in the Core-i5/i7 families and > in 2012 in the AMD A10 cores. 10-4, thanks for the clarification. >>> And even if they did, the default 10.x compiler would support it. >>=20 >> Can't confirm that (yet), but I'll bet it's AOK. >=20 > That's how this thread started. Full AES-NI support is in the default > compiler (clang) in the base system for amd64 and i386 but there's > missing pieces with the old built-in gcc+binutils. If you BYO newer > version of gcc+binutils, that would work too. I'll step back on this one for the right call. Best, .ike
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