From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:54:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55ADD4C102E for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8lD50Zpsz3kkM for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 120954C0E68; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BC54C1188; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x433.google.com (mail-pf1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lD46Qh7z3kvk; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x433.google.com with SMTP id x126so16933104pfc.7; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:54:28 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=8UWG0GZbbe+gZHSx8zB37GfWO/n0/+27jc3WIzb8jCs=; b=ATgBsiDrr2vrqPsnBBl+0t8KCQzMgRhiouziqeI4/CnAE8ODAyMToW5ho3hogFK4L2 g/riJmxhx/5nHhIwZyKOUwBZ2ZnlinEUFhHBQ0C26lj7XDhA6xNxKgv/8JGHqx1UekJP +PxvSpoAj0us7YGRyX7C8kask0fYN0JBnKL0PVIvZ+xNsgKhCo02OTK0ZFdzwdlOV2fh 8UjYZum2DggeMV9F1lG7wzIGkiTk8iOQ+qMxUqCDRh6RzvKQH4yTrnYz1sCMwdiFqebB z5MBSr1Z6HW+lXox1ZKkZJwQ316aZ7ss7zhMkPFJ2aaCfNkgIlswZBBTgGWz32NGF5BG JQqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532hxAxw0zA/h9nl1kedzKjanNAt8RYcRg8RTMRBs4WBAf3VaILi Lb5+T9n4lFyV6xZg9bq4nwo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzBxD+p4XJjm64CrkUHbt0bKWdDUFHOnOzd9S0ziKblEMcO9tcusojwZHGF8aY89svii+g/vg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:100e:: with SMTP id f14mr71445911pgl.102.1609786465560; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:54:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.20.29] (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z3sm41222198pgs.61.2021.01.04.10.54.24 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:54:25 -0800 (PST) From: Enji Cooper Message-Id: <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:54:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Cc: Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT To: Marek Zarychta References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lD46Qh7z3kvk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:54:29 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta = wrote: =E2=80=A6 > Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. >=20 > It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail > gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? Marek, I=E2=80=99m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of = mergemaster? If so when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as = functional): could you please report them on bugs.freebsd.org = ? etcupdate is a less fragile tool that=E2=80=99s broken my = systems less when compared with mergemaster. Cheers, -Enji=