From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Nov 27 14:16:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29720 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:16:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29715 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19436; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:16:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd019421; Fri Nov 27 15:16:33 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20284; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:16:32 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199811272216.PAA20284@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where wasFreeBSD? To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:16:32 +0000 (GMT) Cc: brett@lariat.org, wes@softweyr.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <1045.912060795@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 25, 98 10:13:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Tell you what, Jordan: If you're ever hit by a car, remind me to blame > > you for leaving the house. > > > > Assuming that I was hit by the car while crossing the street outside a > cross-walk and without looking first, this is a good analogy if you > don't quibble about the fact that the blame would more correctly fall > upon my failure to look where I was going than on the act of simply > leaving my house. It also supports my point, however, so I guess I'd > also have to thank you for the fine analogy and congradulate you on > finally getting the idea after having so many people attempt (and > fail) to inject it directly into your head with the aid of particle > accellerators and such. > > If you're using getting hit by a car as symbology for "a random act of > god", on the other hand, then it's unfortunately a rather poor analogy > on account of the fact that it a) shows a fundamental lack of > understanding about what precipitates the great majority of auto > accidents (driver error) and b) incorrectly equates the perils of > system administration with that of random meteor impacts and other > events completely outside one's control. A good system administrator > has a great deal more control over their environment than that and can > take a wide variety of preventive measures not available to the > Extinction Event Scenario folks in order to prevent situations exactly > like yours from occurring at all. > > Oh yeah, and transitive closure over a virtualized interface boundry. > I almost forgot that bit. > > I rarely engage in Ad Hominim attacks, like the one above. My only comment on the discussion so far is that if Jordan *is* hit by a car, before I blame Jordan, I would want a plaster cast of the license plate run through the DMV to see whose car it was. PS: I'm pretty sure that HMTL tags aren't allowed to contain hypens, and even if they can, I didn't find that one in the 3.2 spec or 4.0 draft. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message