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Date:      Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:54:59 +0200
From:      Cynic <cynic@mail.cz>
To:        Joe Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
Cc:        <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: config for POP3 mail
Message-ID:  <5.1.0.14.2.20010615003953.03f5cba8@mail.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20010614181142.G5300-100000@shumai.marcuscom.com>
References:  <5.1.0.14.2.20010614234835.02126ef8@mail.cz>

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Right, you summarized what I've sent in reply to Doug Young.
What other choices do I have with regard to outgoing mail
besides sendmail? Or rather... What is the best tool for this 
particular task? 

At 00:15 15.6. 2001, Joe Clarke wrote the following:
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>You really want a few applications here.  fetchmail will collect mail from
>multiple servers, and queue it to your local MTA for delivery.  This way,
>you can filter the mail as it's delivered on your system.  For reading
>your mail once it's on your local box, you can use any MUA (I like Pine,
>but mutt is also cool, and there are tons of other MUAs for UNIX).
>
>For notification, I like xbuffy or gbuffy (both in /usr/ports/mail).  Both
>can check for mail in multiple mail boxes on a local system, but gbuffy
>also has the ability to use POP and IMAP to check for mail.
>
>Admittedly, I use sendmail on all my machines, so mileage may vary with
>other MTAs.
>
>Joe Clarke
>
>On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> Yeah, I've heard fetchmail is very flexible, but I've also heard
>> it's pretty complicated. I'd like to try getmail if it can do what
>> I need.
>>
>> IMAP isn't an option for me, that means Pine is out of question...
>> Unless I use something else to collect mail off the POP3 servers,
>> and use Pine on my local mailbox/maildir, I guess.
>>
>> I'm looking for a solution that will:
>> 1) collect my mail from several (actually, it's three) POP3 accounts
>> 2) filter it upon retrieval
>> 3) let me know that I have new mail (message sent to the console)
>>
>> I understand that getmail can do 1 and 2 for me, and I can use pretty
>> much any MUA to read, etc. my mail. Since all of my mail is POP3-based,
>> I'll need something to send outgoing mail to my SMTP servers, right?
>> Like sendmail, right?
>>
>> As for connection: both LAN (at work) and dialup (at home).
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> At 23:24 14.6. 2001, Joe Clarke wrote the following:
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> >If your MUA supports POP, then that will transfer mail from your mail
>> >server to your local machine.  A dedicated MTA is not needed for this.
>> >
>> >The way I do it is use pine to check email on an IMAP server. I have
>> >filters setup on the mail server to filter my mail from freebsd-*
>> >appropriately.  Pine then knows how to check the multiple mailboxes.
>> >
>> >I have also used /usr/ports/mail/fetchmail in the past to pull email off
>> >of a POP3 server, and deliver it locally.  fetchmail is _very_
>> >configurable, and works well for dialup connections.
>> >
>> >I guess it depends on your connection to your mail server as to what
>> >method you'll prefer.  If you have a on-demand link, the fetchmail
>> >alternative might be the way to go.  If you have a dedicated connection,
>> >using IMAP or POP right out of your MUA would save you the extra setup
>> >hassle.
>> >
>> >Joe Clarke
>> >
>> >On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, Cynic wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi there,
>> >>
>> >> coming from the NT world, I'm a bit baffled by the unix
>> >> distinction of MUA's / MTA's. So, if someone can kindly
>> >> confirm (or explain if I'm wrong) a few things, I'll be more
>> >> than happy.
>> >>
>> >> If I get this right, one can use a MUA (like mutt, pine, etc)
>> >> to read mail on their IMAP server, or in their local mailbox.
>> >> If one has a POP3 account, they'll need an MTA to deliver
>> >> mail from their POP3 server to their workstation (or, local
>> >> mailbox), where it can be read using an MUA. Same with
>> >> sending mail -- if you have an IMAP account, you're off with
>> >> just an MUA, but need an MTA with a POP3 one.
>> >>
>> >> Right or wrong? :)
>> >>
>> >> I'm ignoring the setup of the server, here, the frebsd machine
>> >> is just a workstation, where I want to be able to handle my
>> >> email just like in windoze.
>> >>
>> >> Basically, I would very much welcome a link to an explanation
>> >> of this stuff for a win32 user. Seems like this is an area
>> >> where the terms I'm used to don't translate easily. (what the
>> >> heck is multidrop? :) I guess this confusion mostly comes from
>> >> the fact that while win32 mail software uses the kitchen-sink
>> >> approach (one app fetches, sends, views, filters into folders,
>> >> and notices you of new mail), unices make mail no exception to
>> >> their set-of-specialized-tools attitude.
>> >>
>> >> Also, if you can recommend a setup... I recieve ~200 messages
>> >> a day mainly from several busy mailing lists. Seems like I could
>> >> use e. g. getmail to fetch email and sort it into folders upon
>> >> retrieval, right?
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> cynic@mail.cz
>> >> -------------
>> >> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
>> >> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
>> >>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
>> >>
>> >>
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>>
>> cynic@mail.cz
>> -------------
>> And the eyes of them both were opened and they saw that their files
>> were world readable and writable, so they chmoded 600 their files.
>>     - Book of Installation chapt 3 sec 7
>>
>>
>>
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