From owner-freebsd-current Tue Apr 4 22:34:51 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA03759 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:34:51 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03753 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:34:47 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA09555; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 23:38:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 23:38:29 -0600 Message-Id: <199504050538.XAA09555@trout.sri.MT.net> To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NOTICE: If you care, speak now! In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) From: nate@sneezy.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: current-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Wackerbarth writes: > >If you're really serious about this, then before you commit *anything* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >you need to bring it up on a machine completely and totally so that > >others can run test builds with it and make comments. I'm sorry, but > >until I actually *KNOW* and can *SEE* your changes doing everything > >they're supposed to do on a real live box then I can't support them > >and I doubt that many others will step forward and do so either. > In order to implement this, I propose > 1) By Thursday, I will distribute a proposed "standard" for the make files. > 2) By Monday, we will agree to the standard. > 3) I'll make changes to the .mk files to make them accept both the present > Makefiles as well as those that conform to the new standard. Before we agree to something, we need to *see* it in action. That means we need to see a prototype before we can accept it as a standard. Then, after a period of time which includes people beating on it and Jordan agrees it's a 'Good thing' it will be agreed, and step 3 can occur. No offense, but it's really easy to find a solution that doesn't 'quite' work. The direction it heads is better, but if it doesn't do everything it needs to do it's not a complete solution. Show it off on thud first, and then we can see the wonderfulness of your solution. :-) Nate