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Date:      Wed, 06 Mar 1996 02:46:35 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch)
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HP 4080i as both CD and WORM? 
Message-ID:  <14827.826109195@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 06 Mar 1996 09:48:18 %2B0100." <199603060848.JAA10424@uriah.heep.sax.de> 

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> [Scope widened to freebsd-scsi without Jordan's permission, hope he
> wouldn't mind. :) ]

No problem!  The more the merrier.

> Well, it still suffers from a few idiosyncracsies and design flaws.
> The most annoying one is the blatant use of UNIT ATTENTIONs in these
> drives, which causes four messages at boot time, and still required me

Yes, those are kind of annoying, I agree.  Wouldn't it be permissable
to simply loop, say, 5 times with a slight delay each time and if the
drive is still returning UNIT ATTENTION (reported as "Target Busy", I
assume?) simply gobble it and try again, or does the fool thing assert
UA continuously until something else happens?

> frequently asked question is about the Yamaha devices.  Jordan, could
> you bug Yamaha to release their SCSI reference manual to us, even
> though we cannot promise them any sales figures and other $%!@?

I will try.  We have a couple of them here (the quad-speed ones)
so I can probably say "Hey, we're Walnut Creek CDROM, we have
some of your drives, and we NEED the frimpin' tech specs!" :-)

> It misses code for ``disk at once'', and my Plasmon doesn't even seem

I'm afraid that I don't quite know what is meant here?

> For a more advanced operation, the driver needs to inherit all the
> functionality of the CD-ROM driver.  It is a very special case, since
> the CD-Rs can be considered a ``super-class'' of CD-ROMs.  We could
> either clone the CD-ROM driver, or violate the layering and jump

Hmmmm.  Julian? :-)

					Jordan



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