From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 09:40:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6DC16A40F for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com [68.99.120.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411FC13C44B for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao03 ([172.18.22.61]) by dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.06.01 201-2131-130-101-20060113) with SMTP id <20070102094029.EKOX60.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 04:40:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16 (webedge20-101-1106-20040809) From: Vizion Organization: vizion Communications To: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 1:40:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070102094029.EKOX60.dukecmmtao03.coxmail.com@dukecmmtao03> Subject: Re: portupgrade - skipping -held by user- meaning? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:40:29 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Sahil Tandon > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 3:36 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: portupgrade - skipping -held by user- meaning? > > > Vizion wrote: > > > What does it mean when the message > > ---> skipping [portname] because it is held by user > (specify -f to force) > > Does said port appear in the HOLD_PKGS array within > pkgtools.conf? From > that file: > > # HOLD_PKGS: array > # > # This is a list of ports you don't want portupgrade(1) to upgrade, > # portversion(1) to suggest upgrading, or pkgdb(1) to fix. > # You can use wildcards ("ports glob" and "pkgname glob"). > # -f/--force with each command will override the held status. > > > and when & why should -f be specify? > > When you want to force the upgrade of a package even though you've > "held" it in pkgtools.conf. > Thanks from what you say I understand what happens but do not understand the when and whys!! My pkgtools.conf had entries in it but none made by me. In what circumstances would one choose to "hold" and how come there are "holds" without my knowing anything about it? This is always one of the difficulties with freebsd .. the what and how questions get answered in the man pages but information that informs judgement upon when the "how" and "what" to-do is best implemented are missing!! Thanks for your help David