From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 18:03:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288C716A41C for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:03:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915D143D1F for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:03:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [82.41.37.55] ([82.41.37.55]) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:04:12 +0100 Message-ID: <42BC4AF1.3080607@dial.pipex.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:03:29 +0100 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050530 X-Accept-Language: en, en-us, pl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe References: <20050624161652.28509.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050624161652.28509.qmail@web41015.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2005 18:04:12.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[2010FD50:01C578E7] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMP and networking under FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:03:33 -0000 Joe wrote: >Hello, > >ps: > >root 542 0.0 0.7 1320 812 ?? Ss Tue09AM 2:22.10 >/sbin/natd -dynamic -d -log_ipfw_denied -log_denied -dynamic -n >dc0 > > Is this just after a reboot? If so, it does show that natd is running, so I'm not sure why you're getting the message you were getting. >ifconfig: >pccard_ifconfig="NO" >ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.0.15 netmask 255.255.255.0" >ifconfig_dc0="DHCP" > > That looks right. >So FreeBSD 5.3 isn't production? I had read somewhere that >5.2.1 wasn't production and that 5.3 was supposed to be >production. > > > I'm not sure if I'm getting the terminology quite right, but I believe 5.4 was the first "-STABLE" release. Up until then 4.X was still the "recommended" release to use unless you required 5.X for particular hardware and were prepared to accept that it might not be quite "production ready". My memory, when I was tracking this stuff, was that a lot of improvements went into 5.4. (I'm sure a lot went into 5.3 as well, but I'm reasonably sure it was not made the "-STABLE" or "recommended" branch or whatever). >I'll look into upgrading to 5.4, it will take a bit of time to >do that though. > I don't think it's as bad as you might think -- my experience is that upgrades within a major release number (4.X, or 5.X) have been very easy. The compiling can take time, but I just try to make it coincide with a good movie on the telly, or a sunny afternoon in the garden. The bit I don't like is mergemaster, just because it's fiddly and hands on and requires lots of concentration. (Mergemaster is a great deal better than anything which preceded it, which if you go back far enough was "nothing at all". It's not so much mergemaster that I dislike as just staring at the diffs trying to decipher how the OS-related changes affect my own changes). The handbook has a great section on upgrading. I'd recommend printing it off, especially if upgrading isn't something you have done often. Please note, I'm not saying that upgrading will fix your problem, but it might and 5.4 ought to be better than 5.3. Since no-one else has yet chimed in with any help, it might be worth posting a brand new message (with a more descriptive subject line) and just summarise the relevant bits of config and the natd error you are getting. (Summarise your natd_* config variables, ifconfig_* variables, OS version and an excerpt from your firewall showing any divert rules. That ought to be enough). One final thought. Did you start with a fresh install of 5.3? Did you upgrade from 4.X? If the latter, then make sure that you don't have any stray config/boot script files lying about. The easiest way to do that would be to run mergemaster (I like -s -v as options). You can always say "no" to everything, but you should study the list of "files in /etc which are not in CVS" and make sure that you recognize them all. If there are some you don't recognize which sound like they might be network/natd/firewall related, then they may be causing your problem. --Alex