From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Nov 21 11:17:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.cz (diana.mobil.cz [195.39.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C2437B41E for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ester.mobil.cz (ester.mobil.cz [194.213.62.23]) by mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fALJGng18587 for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:16:50 +0100 Received: from roman.mobil.cz ([10.2.0.89]) by ester.mobil.cz (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.7) with ESMTP id 2001112119570035:98 ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:57:00 +0100 Received: (from roman@localhost) by roman.mobil.cz (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALJ75894989 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:07:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from neuhauser@mobil.cz) X-Authentication-Warning: roman.mobil.cz: roman set sender to neuhauser@mobil.cz using -f Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:07:05 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011121200705.B26507@roman.mobil.cz> Mail-Followup-To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <0111191831240Q.60958@chip.wiegand.org> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/21/2001 07:57:00 PM, Serialize by Router on ester/Mobil(Release 5.0.7 |March 21, 2001) at 11/21/2001 08:12:42 PM, Serialize complete at 11/21/2001 08:12:42 PM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Anthony Atkielski" > To: "Steve Brown" , "Chip" > Cc: > Subject: Re: home pc use > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:54:05 +0100 > > Steve writes: > > > If you're tired of Windows crashing you sure can! > > The KDE environment under FreeBSD stalled or crashed on me nearly half a dozen > times in one day. That's about as many crashes as I've experienced in two years > on Windows NT, and all of the Windows NT crashes were due to bad drivers. > > Unless he intends to run FreeBSD in its native, command-line mode, he should not > expect an increase in stability over Microsoft Windows, and he may experience > the opposite. Last time I saw KDE it was 1.2 (or something like that) on SuSE-6.4. I have never seen it crash, but I didn't use it much either. After trying out a couple of different window managers, I've settled with blackbox. It's visually appealing (though you'd probably call the look I use boring), small, fast, rock-stable. And you know what, I think you would love it: it doesn't have any keyboard shortcuts by default. You have to click through. It also has a graphical configurator. and it takes half the space on the screen that windows, windowmaker, KDE or Gnome use. Erm, back to the topic. I was thinking about replacing windows on my computers for some time, and when it finally happened, I was surprised by how little I miss windows: I don't miss it at all. Mind you, I didn't have powerpoint installed, so all emails I received that had PP attachments went to trash (with an optional flame to the originators), I never bothered reading .doc or .xls attachments either. I rather bothered requesting the originators of such mails to resend such emails with those attachments converted to plain text. I think I might've been a rather strange windows user... As you may notice from my .sig, this box has been last rebooted 29 days ago. The power went out, and I didn't know how long the UPS would stand. All that is unstable among the software I use is netscape-4.78 (no good on windows either), the linux opera, and... that's it. one of the netscape processes occasionaly goes astray, eating memory. I kill -9 it, start netscape again, and am done with it. can you do the same on a windows box? yeah, NT5 is much better than previous versions... Today was the first day in two months I touched an NT5 box: needed to debug a JS problem in IE. Other than that, I don't need windows for anything I do with a computer. So please, do accept that there are people who can use a unix without ever thinking of windows. There are people who _don't_ need windows to use their computer as a personal computer. Unix is not server-only, as you seem to suggest. It does require your attention, however, something unheard of in the windows world. -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 7:35PM up 29 days, 6:18, 2 users, load averages: 0.01, 0.05, 0.04 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message