From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG  Wed Jul 30 11:03:37 2008
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299EC106567A
	for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:03:37 +0000 (UTC)
	(envelope-from ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org)
Received: from smtp-out0.tiscali.nl (smtp-out0.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.175])
	by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95928FC1E
	for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:03:36 +0000 (UTC)
	(envelope-from ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org)
Received: from [212.123.145.58] (helo=guido.klop.ws)
	by smtp-out0.tiscali.nl with smtp id 1KO9Sx-00030T-Lm
	for <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:03:35 +0200
Received: (qmail 1666 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 11:03:35 -0000
Received: from localhost (HELO 82-170-177-25.ip.telfort.nl) (127.0.0.1)
	by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 11:03:35 -0000
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:03:34 +0200
To: "Heiko Wundram" <modelnine@modelnine.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
From: "Ronald Klop" <ronald-freebsd8@klop.yi.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <1217346345.12322.31.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu>
	<200807301211.54974.modelnine@modelnine.org>
	<200807300411.31557.david@vizion2000.net>
	<200807301302.52450.modelnine@modelnine.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <op.ue3qb8er8527sy@82-170-177-25.ip.telfort.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200807301302.52450.modelnine@modelnine.org>
User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.51 (FreeBSD)
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Upcoming ABI Breakage in RELENG_7
X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, 
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>,
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:03:37 -0000

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:02:52 +0200, Heiko Wundram  
<modelnine@modelnine.org> wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 30. Juli 2008 13:11:31 schrieb David Southwell:
>> i.e. Circumstances and what commands to apply in those circumstances?
>
> If you don't know what to do, don't run -STABLE?
>

I think in this case (the ABI breakage) it is more nice to say: "If you  
don't know what to do, you wil probably not see any problem because of  
this."
The edge case of what can go wrong is so small, that you must be doing  
quite specialized stuff to see breakage. In that case you would understand  
what is going on. (IMHO)

Ronald.