From nobody Thu May 7 20:54:16 2026 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gBPcw4LCfz6by41 for ; Thu, 07 May 2026 20:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Received: from smtp.fjl.org.uk (smtp.fjl.org.uk [185.174.224.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4gBPcv339nz3SHf for ; Thu, 07 May 2026 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk designates 185.174.224.37 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk Received: from [192.168.1.154] (mux.fjl.org.uk [92.62.9.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 647KsGZi025922 for ; Thu, 7 May 2026 21:54:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------H9iM8UdN7FTsdXeTO3qhOIgJ" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 21:54:16 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [List] Re: Console output during boot To: questions@freebsd.org References: <7136899E-4CC4-414D-A4CC-CD2C11C51132@sermon-archive.info> <880e3e21-061f-4d2b-a514-13c6905bcd05@fjl.co.uk> From: Frank Leonhardt Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.02 / 15.00]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.92)[0.917]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.82)[0.825]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.72)[-0.723]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.174.224.37]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.20)[]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12703, ipnet:185.174.224.0/24, country:GB]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[fjl.co.uk]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4gBPcv339nz3SHf This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------H9iM8UdN7FTsdXeTO3qhOIgJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04/05/2026 21:21, Doug Hardie wrote: >> As no one else has said anything, all I can think of is the rc_startmsgs variable in rc.conf. This defaults to "yes", meaning display messages like Starting cron, Starting sshd and so on. Are these what you're missing? > No. rc_startmsgs is set and rc_quiet is not set. This could be your problem. rc_startmsgs must be set to "yes" somewhere. However, you might not have understood exactly what I was saying. Inside a file /etc/defaults/rc.conf there should be a like this: rc_startmsgs="YES"     # Show "Starting foo:" messages at boot You can override this to "no" in /etc/rc.conf but if it really is not set to anything (which is what you said) it won't be set to the default "yes". In other words, if it's not set in /etc/rc.conf and for some reason it's missing from /etc/defaults/rc.conf then it won't be set to "yes" and you won't get any messages. It could also be a broken /etc/rc.subr. Make sure this is normal. You might also have $rc_quiet set somehow (other options like faststart switch it on using the service command). You can have faststart set globally for every service start with rc_fast="yes". /etc/rc.conf is just a shell script, so it might be an idea to put stuff like "echo rc_quite=$rc_quiet rc_fast=$rc_fast in there and check what's happening. You can also set a flag "rc_debug=yes" to have it run all it's scripts with the -x option and see exactly where it goes. Finally, you can get a dump of the non-standard settings using "sysrc -a", and a list of all the settings using "sysrc -A". If you're still having troubles, please post "sysrc -A". Regards, Frank. --------------H9iM8UdN7FTsdXeTO3qhOIgJ Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 04/05/2026 21:21, Doug Hardie wrote:
As no one else has said anything, all I can think of is the rc_startmsgs variable in rc.conf. This defaults to "yes", meaning display messages like Starting cron, Starting sshd and so on. Are these what you're missing?

No.  rc_startmsgs is set and rc_quiet is not set.

This could be your problem. rc_startmsgs must be set to "yes" somewhere. However, you might not have understood exactly what I was saying.

Inside a file /etc/defaults/rc.conf there should be a like this:


rc_startmsgs="YES"     # Show "Starting foo:" messages at boot


You can override this to "no" in /etc/rc.conf but if it really is not set to anything (which is what you said) it won't be set to the default "yes". In other words, if it's not set in /etc/rc.conf and for some reason it's missing from /etc/defaults/rc.conf then it won't be set to "yes" and you won't get any messages.

It could also be a broken /etc/rc.subr. Make sure this is normal.

You might also have $rc_quiet set somehow (other options like faststart switch it on using the service command). You can have faststart set globally for every service start with rc_fast="yes".

/etc/rc.conf is just a shell script, so it might be an idea to put stuff like "echo rc_quite=$rc_quiet rc_fast=$rc_fast in there and check what's happening.

You can also set a flag "rc_debug=yes" to have it run all it's scripts with the -x option and see exactly where it goes.

Finally, you can get a dump of the non-standard settings using "sysrc -a", and a list of all the settings using "sysrc -A".

If you're still having troubles, please post "sysrc -A".

Regards, Frank.


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