From owner-freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 19:35:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8F3A2B6E9 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F2F1C67 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 0798BA2B6E7; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: sparc64@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05305A2B6E6; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gold.funkthat.com", Issuer "gold.funkthat.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B58A81C66; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id tABJZcLF008119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id tABJZb7D008118; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:37 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Jordan Hubbard , freebsd-arch , sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sparc64 doesn't care about you, and you shouldn't care about Sparc64 Message-ID: <20151111193536.GU65715@funkthat.com> References: <563A5893.1030607@freebsd.org> <2AAC0EF3-528B-476F-BA9C-CDC3004465D0@bsdimp.com> <20151108155501.GA1901@alchemy.franken.de> <563F8385.3090603@freebsd.org> <56417100.5050600@Wilcox-Tech.com> <39947478-4710-47D8-BAB1-FC93979570B6@mail.turbofuzz.com> <20151111084432.GC67251@server.rulingia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20151111084432.GC67251@server.rulingia.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 9.1-PRERELEASE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 54BA 873B 6515 3F10 9E88 9322 9CB1 8F74 6D3F A396 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! HOW YA DOIN? can i haz chizburger? User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:35:38 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:35:39 -0000 Peter Jeremy wrote this message on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 19:44 +1100: > On 2015-Nov-10 22:55:38 -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > >Again, what???s the long-term goal of supporting this architecture? > > The things that sparc64 give us that x86 doesn't are big-endian and > strict alignment. In theory, MIPS, PPC and ARM can give us both of > those but I'm non sure whether we actually have any big-endian > variants of them. I'm running an ARMv4 BE machine (AVILA board), and a MIPS64 BE machine, the EdgeRouter Lite... FreeBSD avila.funkthat.com 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #3 r283010M: Sun May 17 10:16:08 PDT 2015 jmg@carbon.funkthat.com:/a/obj/arm.armeb/a/home/jmg/FreeBSD.svn/HEAD/sys/AVILA arm FreeBSD erl.funkthat.com 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #0 r289393M: Thu Oct 15 17:02:12 PDT 2015 jmg@carbon.funkthat.com:/a/obj/mips.mips64/a/home/jmg/FreeBSD.svn/HEAD/sys/ERL mips -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."