From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 15 22:12:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2682D16A513; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew@fubar.geek.nz) Received: from cantva.canterbury.ac.nz (cantva.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.2.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABF343D45; Mon, 15 May 2006 22:12:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from andrew@fubar.geek.nz) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) id <01M2HIDNS58GAKKLQS@it.canterbury.ac.nz>; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:11:19 +1200 (NEW ZEALAND STANDARD TIME) Received: from [192.168.1.10] ([222.155.13.229]) by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #31178) with ESMTPA id <01M2HIEMB2TE9UUOD0@it.canterbury.ac.nz>; Tue, 16 May 2006 10:12:06 +1200 (NEW ZEALAND STANDARD TIME) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 10:12:05 +1200 From: Andrew Turner In-reply-to: <20060515143905.L38871@fledge.watson.org> To: Robert Watson Message-id: <4468FCB5.2050103@fubar.geek.nz> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060425) References: <20060515150504.44b3a065.rosti.bsd@gmail.com> <20060515143905.L38871@fledge.watson.org> Cc: Rostislav Krasny , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDInstaller snapshot X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:12:10 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > > Before adding some of my own user interface critiques, I wanted to > mention at the top of the e-mail that I'm very pleased the BSD > installer work is going on, it's well overdue! Onto a few minor > criticisms :-). > > On Mon, 15 May 2006, Rostislav Krasny wrote: > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/16.png > > I'd like to see the partition type here simply be "FreeBSD". "Drago" > is likely to confuse, and Dragonfly actually uses the FreeBSD type, > rather than it being the Dragonfly type. See further comments below > on slices and partitions. I have a local change to just show FreeBSD. > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/24.png >> http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/25.png >> >> I think the word "formatted" on the second screenshot should be >> changed to "created", because fdisk doesn't format partitions/slices. > > I tend to agree. While there is some benefit in using the DOS/Windows > vocabulary, I think it's better to use the same vocabulary as found in > existing FreeBSD documentation, including the handbook, man pages, > printed books, etc. In these dialogs, the device names should also be > specifically mentioned. Note that "Primary partition" is a confusing > term -- I'm not sure what it means, actually :-). The primary partition is the partition to install FreeBSD on. This is because the BSDInstaller can only install to one bsd slice currently. > >> >> http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/22.png >> http://people.freebsd.org/~julian/bsdinstaller_install/26.png >> >> Does BSDInstaller support installtion on multiple slices or multiple >> physical disks? Sysinstall supports it. > > While I recognize the goal of providing a useful mapping to user-aware > notions, such as "partitions", I find the message in this dialog > confusing even as someone who in theory knows something about the > topic. Despite the limitations of calling fdisk partitions slices in > sysinstall, at least it was done mostly sort of consistently :-). I'd > like to see the installe consistently refer to "fdisk slices" and "bsd > partitions", and avoid using the words "slice" or "partition" in > isolation. I'll look in to changing the references. Andrew