From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 5 17:03:27 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E74016A4CE for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:03:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from vhost109.his.com (vhost109.his.com [216.194.225.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3636E43D3F for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 17:03:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (localhost.his.com [127.0.0.1]) by vhost109.his.com (8.12.11/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i65H3MLG037601; Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:03:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <32866.192.168.1.238.1089024343.squirrel@Illinois.DynDNS.Org> References: <20040704121112.GK43549@iconoplex.co.uk><32837.192.168.1.238.1089022 879.squirrel@Illinois.DynDNS.Org><200407051108.08551.racerx@makewo rld.com> <32866.192.168.1.238.1089024343.squirrel@Illinois.DynDNS.Org> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 19:01:17 +0200 To: "Brandon Joseph Adams" From: Brad Knowles Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" cc: Brad Knowles cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: training (was Resourceful BSD/Linux NetworkAdministrator) X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 17:03:27 -0000 At 10:45 AM +0000 2004-07-05, Brandon Joseph Adams wrote: > From experience, setting a FreeBSD box on the internet without any clue as > to what was going on, there are more than enough people willing to break > your box for you that'll leave you with a mess to clean up. I'm not trying > to be funny, this is the truth. That's a different class of problem. As a system admin, you're going to be responsible for fixing not only those very few systems which have been compromised by external attackers, but also the > 90% break-ins which have come from inside personnel exceeding their authorized level of access, as well as the machines which have been munged because you (or one of your co-workers) fat-fingered something. Just leaving an open box on the 'net and trying to fix whatever comes up is a very poor way to try to learn about all those other classes of problems. -- Brad Knowles, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See for more info.