From owner-cvs-all Sun May 7 17:34:38 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF8437BAF8; Sun, 7 May 2000 17:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz) Received: from lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.12]) by xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00122; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:34:26 +1200 (NZST) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA25937; Mon, 8 May 2000 12:34:24 +1200 (NZST) Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 12:34:23 +1200 From: Joerg Micheel To: Warner Losh Cc: Mike Smith , Greg Lehey , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, joerg@cs.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 sa.4 Message-ID: <20000508123423.C19372@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: <200005080002.RAA12447@mass.cdrom.com> <200005080023.SAA74329@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <200005080023.SAA74329@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:23:45PM -0600 Organization: SCMS, The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND - Waikato Applied Network Dynamics, DAG Operating-System: ... drained by Solaris 7 SPARC Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 06:23:45PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <200005080002.RAA12447@mass.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: > : > In message <20000508085337.C61488@freebie.lemis.com> Greg Lehey writes: > : > : FILES > : > : /dev/rmt* Raw magnetic tape interface > : > : > : > : There used to be a block interface for the 'mt' driver, so the drives > : > : got names like /dev/mt8 and /dev/rmt8. I think we need to get rid of > : > : the 'r', like we did with disks. > : > > : > No. 'r' means 'rewind' while 'nr' means no rewind. The r's should > : > stay. I don't think that FreeBSD ever had a /dev/mt8, but I could be > : > wrong about that. I know I've always used /dev/rst0 or /dev/rsa0 for > : > my backup needs. > : > : That's what I thought too, but I think the historians have us outflanked > : on this one. The only real issue now is POLA. > > On the 4.2BSD vax we had back in school, it was /dev/rmt8 and > /dev/nrmt8. R stood for rewind, and has for a very long time. The > SunOS 3.5 machine behaved exactly the same way. I think I'd still like to disagree. The case could perhaps be proven by running a UNIX 7th edition and checking for the /dev/nmt0 device, which is the non-rewind block tape device. I think it exists, anyone there to prove it ? Joerg (thinking he should get is emulator fixed soon) -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: Waikato Applied Network Dynamics Phone: +64 7 8384794 The University of Waikato, CompScience Fax: +64 7 8585095 Private Bag 3105 Pager: +64 868 38222 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message