From owner-freebsd-java Wed Feb 5 23:52: 1 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D575137B401; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.89]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E6143F75; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 23:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [146.106.12.76] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by riker.skynet.be (8.12.7/8.12.7/Skynet-OUT-2.21) with ESMTP id h167pi2q000542; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:51:45 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030206021823.GB4193@gnuppy.monkey.org> References: <20030205121006.GA69850@rcfile.org> <20030206021823.GB4193@gnuppy.monkey.org> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:50:37 +0100 To: Bill Huey (Hui) From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation) Cc: Brent Verner , freebsd-java@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, rwatson@freesbsd.org, "Bill Huey (Hui)" , calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, jdp@polstra.com, bod@freebsdfoundation.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 6:18 PM -0800 2003/02/05, Bill Huey (Hui) wrote: > BTW, I've decided after a walk to get food to withhold my patches given > the current political climate in our development group and I'd like to > announce my resignation from the project effective immediately... No joke. I'm sorry Bill, but your actions in this process leave me feeling rather unsympathetic to you. I understand your level of involvement so far in the JDK, but your incessant use of foul language and your extremely aggressive tone pretty much eliminate any real chance of getting people to buy into your underlying message. I don't agree with John's public posting of the e-mail exchange, at least not so soon in this discussion. However, your decision to take this matter public in your own way kind of absolves him of a lot of guilt on this issue. Maybe John and the FreeBSD Foundation made a mistake in this process. If they did, I'm very sorry. But it's kind of hard to tell what really happened or why, when faced with all your thermonuclear flaming. If I were on the FreeBSD Foundation and I had previous experience with this kind of incredibly rude behaviour from you in the past, I can certainly see how I might be inclined to pick someone else to be chosen as the person we would be paying to do this work. You have done yourself a very grave disservice in this whole process. If your level of contribution so far truly is as extensive as you claim, and there really are so few people in the world who could possibly have a chance of understanding the system, then I do sorely regret your choice in this matter. However, while your anger would seem to be justifiable, your behaviour is not. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message