From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Feb 1 18:13:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8303237B65D for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:13:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f122D8W20029; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200102020213.f122D8W20029@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Warner Losh Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NEWCARD success story In-Reply-To: <200102020028.f120S5934553@harmony.village.org> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:13:07 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh wrote: > In message Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: > : Just a data point, NEWCARD is working great on my IBM ThinkPad 600E > : with an IBM 10/100 EtherJet (really a Xircom X3201). The only thing > : I'm missing is a daemon that can detect insertions and config up the > : card when it's inserted, but that's not a big issue as I don't > : normally need to remove the card - except to check what's written on > : it when mailing -mobile about how well it works 8) > > Cool! This is the cardbus card that I keep in my desk at work for > normal use so I don't have to drag it around from home to work. It > works great. > > There was some momentum at BSDcon for a generic removable device > architecture, but it seems to have died a stilbirth. Maybe I have > misplaced a draft that hit my mailbox during one of my massively > overloaded phases. IMHO, something like usbd would be a nice start, but spun off to be generic. We already have a notification mechanism for some of the most urgent of this stuff - routing sockets. There are messages when interfaces go up or down already, there should probably be messages to say that an interaface appeared or disappeared too. That would be more than sufficient to do the ifconfig/dhclient/etc stuff. It shouldn't even be difficult to do. Thinking about it some more, network interface config is one of the few things that we actually need a user hookable notification on. ATA and CAM can (and should) self rescan - no userland intervention is required to get those up and running. The same pretty much goes for sio devices. What else is there? > Warner Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message