From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 19:31:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F9237B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7079E43F3F for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E0DD51A9D; Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:01:38 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:01:38 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20030618023138.GE93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3EEF00E4.9000908@freebsd.mheller.org> <20030617.060806.42773474.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030617.060806.42773474.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relating to BSDsettlement agreement X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:31:59 -0000 --WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 17 June 2003 at 6:08:06 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <3EEF00E4.9000908@freebsd.mheller.org> > Martin Heller writes: >> Will the FreeBSD project issue an offical statement relating to these >> allegations? >> What will happen to FreeBSD if SCO aims at the BSD projects. Could SCO >> revoke the Settlement Agreement and pursue a court ruling? > > This is not an official statement from the project. > > There is not now, nor has there *EVER* been *ANY* System V code in > BSD. *EVER*. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER. Agreed. The fact that Sontag even mentions this detracts further from an already very stupid interview. I've put an analysis at http://wwww.lemis.com/grog/sco-sontag-16jun2003.html. > The IP connected with the BSD suit of the early 1990s derived from > pre System V and System III versions of Unix. In fact, Version 7 > unix has more Berkeley copyrights in it than AT&T copyright notices. The Seventh Edition? Nope, as far as I can tell there's no BSD code there. In /usr/src: $ find .|xargs grep -i "bell telephone"|wc -l 27 $ find .|xargs grep -i berkeley Binary file ./cmd/learn/lib/C.a matches ./cmd/refer/test:new providence murray hill berkeley heights $ find .|xargs grep -i california|wc -l 0 Most of the "Bell Telephone" lines were indeed copyrights. Or did you mean something else? > The settlement terms specifically state that SCO cannot sue anybody > who makes a release based on 4.4-LITE. The settlement agreement is > BINDING on both parties. SCO cannot revoke it, and will have a hell > of a legal fight if they try. That depends on how much money we can put into the legal fight. But they don't need to do that: they can simply make the same claim that they did about Linux, that somebody has since imported UNIX code into the tree. The settlement has nothing to do with that. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers --WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+788KIubykFB6QiMRAuZPAJ4no3YpOCPPnA9MeNtPlIkHpjNQ2QCcDaNV LVbZL2OMMf3jdY8m9mVbKyA= =s6m0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WK3l2KTTmXPVedZ6--