From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 18 06:10:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F5A16A4CE for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:10:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (creme-brulee.marcuscom.com [24.172.16.118]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF6943D31 for ; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:10:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [192.168.1.4]) i9I69KL8034577; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:09:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: j.hatton@its.uq.edu.au In-Reply-To: <200410180609.i9I69Gds020390@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au> References: <200410180609.i9I69Gds020390@irt-joel.its.uq.edu.au> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-W/XUMbqv1owKmHFYJBmx" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Message-Id: <1098079848.859.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 02:10:48 -0400 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users Subject: Re: Behaviour of ctrl key sequences in firefox-1.0PR X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:10:54 -0000 --=-W/XUMbqv1owKmHFYJBmx Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 02:09, j.hatton@its.uq.edu.au wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I work with Eric, and am the other person using thunderbird and > encountered the login problem - thanks for getting back to him so > quickly! We're in the process of re-upgrading thunderbird as I > speak. >=20 > I've lately portupgraded to firefox-1.0PR and I have found a couple > of what for me are serious usability issues. I cannot say if these > are linked, but the behaviour seems to indicate it. First, I can > no longer use ctrl-u, ctrl-a, ctrl-e, ctrl-k and so on in the URL > field, or any other text input field. Additionally, any movement > input using neither arrow keys nor the usual emacs ctrl key sequences > is possible in text input fields. >=20 > Although the latter issue seems more serious on the surface, I'm > sure it is just a bug and will be easily fixed - it is the loss of > key bindings for ctrl that is causing me real angst. This causes > me real problems with pasting from other applications (I'm on FreeBSD > 5.3BETA7), as I would usually select some text in the shell, click > into the URL field, ctrl-u, middleclick paste and so on. Needless > to say, ctrl-u now produces something entirely unwanted, and > attempting to paste with ctrl-v leaves me with the problem of > removing the old text and highlighting replaces what is in the mouse > buffer! Basically, my only option is to backspace over the entire > line - not fun... >=20 > What I'm a little concerned about philosophically, going forward, > is whether this adoption of Microsoft key bindings will continue > as this appears to be at odds with the mouse select/paste model in > X - something I'm very fond of, and one of my primary reasons for > preferring to work in X rather than with MS windows. At present, I > am using Mozilla 1.7 as a workaround as I found it impossible to > work happily without the simple ability to kill text from and move > within an input field. Read /usr/ports/UPDATING. The fix for this is already documented. Joe >=20 > best regards, --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-W/XUMbqv1owKmHFYJBmx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBc15ob2iPiv4Uz4cRAnm0AJwNDKINVWB5ku33BWf/4dFzwk+REACfR0w1 H2vmlpCX295kr2A8VkNUoRA= =p+H5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-W/XUMbqv1owKmHFYJBmx--