From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 23:34:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832F316A4DF; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:34:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A89E43D45; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:34:45 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D72290C98; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:34:39 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13970-09; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:34:43 -0300 (ADT) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1046) id DE193291B0C; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:14:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6335290C46; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:14:31 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:14:31 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@hub.org To: Miod Vallat In-Reply-To: <20060831230642.GH25515@ribeyre.gentiane.org> Message-ID: <20060831201338.F82634@hub.org> References: <950621ad0608310654h78ae0023g346abd108815ae72@mail.gmail.com> <20060831110112.J82634@hub.org> <20060831184715.B82634@hub.org> <44F7619B.8010609@evilkittens.org> <20060831192632.T82634@hub.org> <20060831225719.GG25515@ribeyre.gentiane.org> <20060831200228.B82634@hub.org> <20060831230642.GH25515@ribeyre.gentiane.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: misc@openbsd.org, Gilles Chehade , "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, miros-discuss@mirbsd.org Subject: Re: The future of NetBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:34:45 -0000 On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Miod Vallat wrote: >> If the vendor is supporting the driver, and working with the community, >> then one would hope that they would also fix the driver as bug reports >> come in about it ... > > That's too many ifs to be realworld-compatible. > > And actually the only vendors I can think of which are working with the > community actually provide documentation, if only because it is simpler > for them to spend time on documentation than on code for N different > systems. ICP Vortex (aka Adaptec) were providing drivers on their web site for FreeBSD 4.x and 5.x that are included in both source trees ... it was a binary driver, as far as I'm aware, but source code ... and Adaptec doesn't provide documentation ...