From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 29 21:00:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4516A4D0 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:00:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D6143D3F for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:00:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id iBTL1AAD017603; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:01:10 -0800 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id iBTL1Ab5017602; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:01:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:01:10 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Palle Girgensohn Message-ID: <20041229210110.GA16903@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <05F0F09DEB66858D9B452FB8@palle.girgensohn.se> <20041229203601.GD10293@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to remote update 4.10 -> 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:00:58 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:49:10PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: >=20 >=20 > --On onsdag, december 29, 2004 12.36.01 -0800 Brooks Davis=20 > wrote: >=20 > >On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:30:37PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > >>Has anyone managed to update a 4.10 system to 5.3 remotely, i.e. without > >>console access, and without spare disk partitions? > >> > >>I have a bunch of 4.10 machines that are too far away for me to actually > >>do the update hands on. I've tried it on a test machine, it fails half > >>way through installworld, and really needs single user mode to succeed. > >>The install procedure fails since it starts using the newly installed > >>stuff, things like sh(1) and test(1), and they cannot find their > >>libc.so.5, I guess... > >> > >>One idea I have is copying / and /usr to some other place and set > >>ldconfig and PATH=3Dsome/other/place and when building and installing. > >>Haven't tried it yet, thought I'd hear anyone on this list has a better > >>suggestion? > >> > >>Optimally, there would a couple of gigs on a separate spare disk > >>partition so I could just install everything there and use it upon > >>reboot. Problem is, there is no such space. :( > > > >In general, my suggestion would be, don't do that. Do you really need > >to upgrade? Remember, 4.11 is likely to be supported for security > >upgrades into early 2006 so if your machines are working and you don't > >really need the new functionality, I'd suggest avoiding an upgrade. >=20 > Well, I need wide char support, as in iswlower and the likes. Maybe I cou= ld=20 > use some portability lib or similar...? Ideas? >=20 > BTW, do you mean that 5.3 is not stable enough, or just that it is a=20 > nuisance to upgrade? While I agree that 4.10 is very stable, a lot of=20 > things have improved with 5.x... If you need the improved wide char support, then you will probably have to upgrade. 5.3 is generally stable, but I personally think upgrading for 4.x by any method other then a new install is a bad idea. It's certaintly possiable, but not trivial. I believe the instructions in UPDATING should work, but I've never tried them remotely. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB0xsVXY6L6fI4GtQRArKQAKCRK6zDip2xuXJ5/KGe6uF3yQWDIwCfQ9tM UosFueiASF8ryElIZnliA3I= =vVDh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt--