From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 7 18:37:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net (groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net [198.70.228.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585DC37BEF9 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) Received: (from abc@localhost) by groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13505; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:36:43 GMT (envelope-from groggy@iname.com) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:36:43 GMT From: groggy@iname.com Message-Id: <200004080136.BAA13505@groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net> X-Authentication-Warning: groggy.anchorage.ptialaska.net: abc set sender to groggy@iname.com using -f Subject: RE: mail Q. Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG who is right? i am really confused now :) > >>> ps. it seems my favorite maillist and a few others these days > >>> block mail originating from a server with a private IP > >>> behind a proxying gateway. is there i way i can continue > >>> to use my own sendmail to mail from my FBSD machine behind > >>> a proxying gateway? is my only choice to use the proxies > >>> mailserver to send mail? this sucks for various reasons. > >>> > >>> more and more my email bounces with "originating domain must exist" > >>> messages. :( > >> > >> This problem is indicative of the general quality of ISPs nowadays. > >> The only good reason not to have reverse mapping is in order to spam. > >> If your ISP is too stupid to set up reverse mapping, you probably > >> want to change anyway. > > > > what do you mean? how can my ISP reverse map my private IP numbers? > > if i send from 192.168.0.26 or whatever ... > > They can't. But they're not the addresses that get posted, they're > the ISPs address. > > > i don't understand why they are stupid. > > Because they're not sticking to the DNS conventions, and (in case you > hadn't noticed) they're causing you problems as a result. Look: > > + > ptialaska.net > + Server: freebie.lemis.com > + Address: 0.0.0.0 > + > + ptialaska.net > + origin = ns2.ptialaska.net > + mail addr = dnstech.ptialaska.net > + serial = 2000032701 > + refresh = 10800 (3H) > + retry = 3600 (1H) > + expire = 604800 (1W) > + minimum ttl = 14400 (4H) > + ptialaska.net nameserver = ns1.ptialaska.net > + ptialaska.net nameserver = ns2.ptialaska.net > + ptialaska.net nameserver = ns3.ptialaska.net > + ns1.ptialaska.net internet address = 209.193.30.248 > + ns2.ptialaska.net internet address = 209.193.30.245 > + ns3.ptialaska.net internet address = 208.151.127.1 > + > 209.193.30.248 > + Server: freebie.lemis.com > + Address: 0.0.0.0 > + > + *** freebie.lemis.com can't find 209.193.30.248: Non-existent host/domain > + > + > 209.193.30.245 > + Server: freebie.lemis.com > + Address: 0.0.0.0 > + > + *** freebie.lemis.com can't find 209.193.30.245: Non-existent host/domain > + > 208.151.127.1 > + Server: freebie.lemis.com > + Address: 0.0.0.0 > + > + *** freebie.lemis.com can't find 208.151.127.1: Non-existent host/domain > > Not even their name servers reverse map. > > Greg > -- > When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. > For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key > See complete headers for address and phone numbers ******************************************************************************* ISP's reply :) Note: i do not have any problem resolving their IP numbers ... ******************************************************************************* > I have checked our DNS settings/records and they are functioning correctly. > I noticed that you seem to be running some sort of UNIX type system. You > either need to be running DNS/BIND on your box and keep DNS records there, > or you need to point your box to DNS servers in your config files > ( resolv.conf ). The most likely DNS servers for you, being a PTI customer, > would be > > 209.193.30.245 husky.ptialaska.net > 209.193.30.248 moose.ptialaksa.net > > The following line is what leads me to think that you might have a > mis-config on your box.. > > Address: 0.0.0.0 > > When you run nslookup it should look something like this... > > >208.151.127.1 > Server: husky.ptialaska.net > Address: 209.193.30.245 > > Name: threehorses.mtasolutions.com > Address: 208.151.127.1 > > I hope this helps out. > > Tilka Fegert > PTI Net System Administration > (907)-793-4100 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message