From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 08:02:28 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1787216A4B3 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rambo.401.cx (rambo.401.cx [80.65.205.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC6B43F75 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:02:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Received: from 401.cx (rocky [192.168.0.2]) by rambo.401.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9BF2DTn010734; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:02:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from listsub@401.cx) Message-ID: <3F881B76.6090403@401.cx> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:02:14 +0200 From: "Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030901 Thunderbird/0.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samy Al Bahra References: <002801c38fb1$95e804e0$0200a8c0@sbcgolbal.net> <001601c38fb2$b4bf1c40$9801a8c0@diamond> <200310110015.21004.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> <20031011173513.7f470c0c.samy@kerneled.com> In-Reply-To: <20031011173513.7f470c0c.samy@kerneled.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A case of FreeBSD users shooting all FreeBSD users in the foot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 15:02:28 -0000 Samy Al Bahra wrote: > Give EFnet #FreeBSD a try then :) > > In all seriousness, the channel is run pretty fairly (meaning trolls are > usually kicked off the channel), sane questions are answered. Yes, that > is right, usually answered with links to documentation. The channel > operators will ban or kick out a user if he repeatedly ignores these > references (or is rude, etc...). I used to be a frequent visitor of #freebsd@efnet a few years ago, and I must say that the channel was everything but friendly to newcomers. People were kicked for everything and nothing. They might just politely ask a question that was answered in the FAQ, they might come from a ISP that one of the op's didnt like, they might have a nick that someone found difficult to type or an op could just decide that they didnt like the user so the user should not be allowed to be there. The discussions in the channel were rarely BSD related, or even computer related. The most frequently used words were probably "penis" and/or "poop". Even if the channel usually had several hundreds of users, the people that actually dared to say something could be counted on one hand. Granted, I have not visited the channel lately. The reason I frequented Efnet has disappeared, and #freebsd alone was probably more a reason to leave then to stay. If the channel has changed for the better, noone would like it more then me, but I find it hard to believe. Just my $0.02 -- R