From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 9 19:57:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD8D16A41C for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:57:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from imap.sd73.bc.ca (smtp.sd73.bc.ca [142.24.13.149]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D79F43D1D for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 19:57:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DA018CC31 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imap.sd73.bc.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailtest.sd73.bc.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 71512-03-11 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s9.sbo (s9.sbo [192.168.0.9]) by imap.sd73.bc.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10C918CC81 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:57:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Freddie Cash Organization: School District 73 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:57:11 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20050608212440.EDE1520F01@krell.webweaver.net> <200506091126.57072.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> <86psuvxqma.fsf@xps.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86psuvxqma.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200506091257.11988.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at sd73.bc.ca Subject: Re: apple moving to x86 X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:57:15 -0000 On June 9, 2005 12:43 pm, you wrote: > Freddie Cash writes: > > If they went with AMD processors, then they would have to either > > build or find someone to build a chipset. > FYI, AMD makes chipsets. Yes, and some nices ones at that, especially on the server side (our new dual-Opteron boards use AMD 8xxx chipsets). But they don't make motherboards, they don't make audio/video chipsets, they don't make ethernet chips, and they don't sell everything all nicely packaged up as a single "platform". I'm not saying that's definitely why Apple went with Intel. But it does make sense, if you think about it for a bit. Going with Intel gives Intel a place to show off their "complete platform solutions", and gives Apple a single configuration to code for. Going with AMD would require too much work on Apple's part to get everything working together, and would be a pain to certify the hardware configurations as "Designed for Apple". This way, they just say that MacOS X will only run on Centrino2 laptops, whatever the desktop equivalent of Centrino will be called, and they're done. Intel takes care of the hard parts for them. -- Freddie Cash, CLCP CNCP Network Support / Helpdesk School District 73 (250) 377-4357 fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca