From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Dec 1 20:39:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEF137B417; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 20:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 6693E81D04; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 22:39:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 22:39:37 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Watson Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Enabling Softupdates in default install on -CURRENT Message-ID: <20011201223937.C92148@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 11:27:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Robert Watson [011201 22:27] wrote: > > I'm beginning to wonder if it isn't time to switch sysinstall to start > configuring softupdates "by default" for file systems at install-time. We > currently allow it to be selected, but don't enable it by default. I > would propose it be turned on by default for all non-root file systems, or > some other similar rule (file systems <64MB, ..). Given that this is the > primary recommendation made for system performance tuning, and not only > addresses performance but improved reliability, it seems to me that this > would be a sensible change to introduce at some useful breaking point, and > 5.0 provides a good opportunity to do that. > > Any objections? No objections, please do this! Btw, it's a shame that people are so reluctant to do it on '/' i know there's issues about it filling up, but I think rather than saying no softdep on '/', it would make sense to say no softdep on '/' if it's smaller than 120 megs, the main reason being /tmp. Perhaps a dialog at install time that clearly states: "Would you like to enable 'soft-updates' on your root partition? This can dramatically speed up operations involving temporary files, but you may experience 'out of space' errors if you are not careful. [YES] [NO] " The default being to disable them. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message