From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 8 01:37:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A72E16A402; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:37:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A479813C43E; Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:37:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.samsco.home (phobos.samsco.home [192.168.254.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l381bkAY002520; Sat, 7 Apr 2007 19:37:47 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4618475A.7090202@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:37:30 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Rosenman References: <200704071940.l37Jew2t013708@repoman.freebsd.org> <20070407131228.L71232@ns1.feral.com> <46183104.6080904@samsco.org> <20070407190859.N51247@thebighonker.lerctr.org> In-Reply-To: <20070407190859.N51247@thebighonker.lerctr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]); Sat, 07 Apr 2007 19:37:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Scott Long , mjacob@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/cam/scsi scsi_sg.c scsi_sg.h src/sys/modules/cam Makefile src/sys/conf NOTES files src/sys/compat/linux linux_ioctl.c linux_ioctl.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 01:37:51 -0000 Larry Rosenman wrote: > On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Scott Long wrote: > >> To tell you the truth, the SG device has one of the worst programming >> interfaces that I've ever seen. Even the various official docs on it >> complain about how bad it is. I've written apps for CAM, including a >> swiss-army-knife java-based management app, and CAM is vastly superior. >> I tried porting the app to linux and gave up due to how limited and >> unpleasant it was. From the kernel side, it's even scarier. >> >> But beyond that, the work I committed here was about opening up FreeBSD >> to more storage management opportunities. So I'm happy with whatever >> anyone wants to do with it that furthers that goal. I'd like to see >> the native interface be used as a bridge to help introduce programmers >> to FreeBSD and CAM; if the sg3_utils package is a step in that >> direction or if it provides tools that camcontrol doesn't, then go for >> it. >> >> Scott >> > I assume that this is NOT a MFC candidate? (Since I think I may have been > at least part of the genesis of the request from Roman). > > [snip] There's no reason not to merge it to 6.x; it doesn't change any existing functionality or interfaces. What I'd like is for people to play with it for a few weeks and help fill in some of the pieces that are still missing. Once it's a little more mature, it can be merged back. Scott