From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 20 1:15:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (oahu.WURLDLINK.NET [216.235.52.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6646537B423 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by oahu.WURLDLINK.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA10985; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:15:29 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from vince@oahu.WURLDLINK.NET) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:15:29 -1000 (HST) From: Vincent Poy To: Charles Burns Cc: , , , , , , Subject: Re: the AMD factor in FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Burns wrote: > > > Bob's Athlon 1000 may well have been on the exact same silicon wafer as > > > Joe's Athlon 1300 and Sam's Athlon 800. They test each chip and then > >mark > > > them accordingly. > > > > Not really... > > I have seen this many times before, not only with my very own CPU but in > other circumstances ad well. Remember all the press a few years back about > how a certain marking of P2-300s would overclock to 450MHz and even > 500--when 450MHz was the fastest P2 at the time? That was a remarking. > Actually why delve into the past? Take almost any newly manufactured low-end > or mid-range chip today, even intel chips. Yields have been very good, > especially for AMD. Quite a few of these chips are remarked well below what > their test value was. I have heard (but haven't verified at all or seen for > myself) that some of the latest Athlons of series AXIA and AZIA are labelled > at around 1500MHz. I heard someone actually got one of the AXIA's to hit 2Ghz, don't know the truth to that one though. > > > 1200's, AMD will sell 1200's as 900s. They are all the same chips made > >at > > > the same time from the same plant (other than Durons) and all cost the > >same > > > to manufacture. > > > > Maybe the ones that don't past certain tests are relabeled as the > >lower end ones... > > Do you think that AMD and Intel have a different set of manufacturing > equipment for each and every CPU revision? How inneficient would that be, > balancing the production capacity of each one with the market demand. This > is actually fairly public knowledge. Please feel free to contact either > manufacturer on the issue... Don't trust me, trust the source. Ofcourse not since that would cost a fortune... :) I guess the way they do it is like memory, those that don't meet the highest spec and resold as a lower spec. Cheers, Vince - vince@WURLDLINK.NET - Vice President ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] WurldLink Corporation / / / / | / | __] ] San Francisco - Honolulu - Hong Kong / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] Almighty1@IRC - oahu.DAL.NET Hawaii's DALnet IRC Network Server Admin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message