From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 10 23:59:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0E516A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:59:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FA443D1D for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:59:34 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from [207.41.94.233] (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i6ANwlH5022878; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:58:47 -0700 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:59:31 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <40F07719.9060702@earthlink.net> <20040710192028.669d1bd7.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20040710192028.669d1bd7.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200407101659.31979.kstewart@owt.com> cc: Bill Moran Subject: Re: How Critical Is It To Use an ISP Running FreeBSD or BSD/OS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 23:59:35 -0000 On Saturday 10 July 2004 04:20 pm, Bill Moran wrote: > Bob Perry wrote: > > Hello, > > I remember reading in The Complete FreeBSD, by Greg Lehey, that > > you'll be better off with an ISP that runs FreeBSD or BSD/OS. Can > > anyone provide a scenario(s) where this would be most apparent? > > If you have problems and call their tech support. > > A number of ISPs in the past, when I've had problems and called, they > say, "do this with Windows" and when I say I'm not using Windows they > reply that they don't support anything but, and therefore can't help > me. That's been in spite of the fact that I've done everything > reasonable to determine that the problem is _NOT_ on my end, they > simply refuse to do _any_ diagnostic work if I wasn't using Windows. > > The situation seems to be getting better, and nowadays, I just lie > and say I'm using Windows and execute the equivalent commands in > FreeBSD and explain the result. > > > I don't know what OS my ISP uses but I do know that they only > > support Windows and Mac platforms. I've run OS/2 and FreeBSD using > > their email services and never really needed technical support. > > As long as you never need tech support, you'll probably never have a > problem, nor care what OS your ISP uses. After all, the Internet was > designed to be OS-independent ... when everything is working > correctly! > > > Now, I'm considering a new ISP primarily due to cost. Also, > > considering obtaining my own domain name and exploring web hosting. > > > > I assume that recommending an ISP is inappropriate but if you know > > of any forums that have discussed ISPs for FreeBSD, feel free to > > recommend them. > > I don't think it's inappropriate. > > I don't know of any nationwide ISPs that support/use FreeBSD, but if > you're in the Pittsburgh, PA area, city-net is FreeBSD friendly. > Otherwise, you could give your location and if someone knows a > FreeBSD friendly ISP in your area, I'm sure he'll let you know. Look at their web page with Netcraft, it will tell you what their web server is and I think that is a good clue as to what the rest of their setup. Use "What's that site running" at http://news.netcraft.com/ Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html