From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Sun Oct 27 06:59:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB02D163BF6; Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4717xx3ZXQz4Q0F; Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 673002EBB8; Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:59:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:59:31 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: Jan Beich Cc: "Tobias C. Berner" , svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r514669 - in head: . Mk/Uses archivers/kf5-karchive devel/kf5-extra-cmake-modules devel/kf5-kapidox devel/kf5-kauth devel/kf5-kbookmarks devel/kf5-kcmutils devel/kf5-kconfig devel/kf5-k... Message-ID: <20191027065931.GB23020@lonesome.com> References: <201910171806.x9HI6g9e044915@repo.freebsd.org> <20191020233557.GA4508@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4717xx3ZXQz4Q0F X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of linimon@lonesome.com has no SPF policy when checking 18.222.6.11) smtp.mailfrom=linimon@lonesome.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.53 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.96)[-0.964,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lonesome.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; IP_SCORE(-0.26)[ip: (0.02), ipnet: 18.220.0.0/14(0.13), asn: 16509(-1.42), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[11.6.222.18.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:18.220.0.0/14, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 06:59:33 -0000 On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 02:45:01PM +0200, Jan Beich wrote: > Each __FreeBSD_version bump makes poudriere obsolete *all* packages. And this is why on -CURRENT we often cheat, and don't update the jails every 5 minutes. Thus ignoring this message in the errorlogs: !!! Jail is newer than host. (Jail: 1300050, Host: 1300047) !!! !!! This is not supported. !!! !!! Host kernel must be same or newer than jail. !!! !!! Expect build failures. !!! because *in general* things don't change that much. Of course, if there is something significant enough, then, yes, the whole package set must be rebuilt. > so learning how to cut corners helps. For one, poudriere obsoletes > packages in a chain reaction but the chain can be cut at indirect > consumer boundary Foot-shooting-mode: enabled. > Once the project moves to GitHub (or similar) the rate may slightly > increase but the true blocker is pre-commit automation. Heaven save us from the "rolling release" monster e.g. the abolition of even the idea of "release" except wrapped in a pretty phrase. I could not disagree more. mcl