From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 22:06:30 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAE216A4CE for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B35543FBF for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from gamplex.bde.org (katana.zip.com.au [61.8.7.246]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3p2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA29113; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:05:54 +1100 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 17:05:53 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@gamplex.bde.org To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20031122.221350.117024907.imp@bsdimp.com> Message-ID: <20031123164811.Q4547@gamplex.bde.org> References: <20031123131536.M3946@gamplex.bde.org> <20031122.195519.127506801.imp@bsdimp.com> <20031122.221350.117024907.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: richardcoleman@mindspring.com cc: jhs@berklix.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: bv@wjv.com cc: bms@spc.org cc: kientzle@acm.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: /bin and /sbin are now dynamically linked X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:06:31 -0000 On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <3FC02538.7040903@mindspring.com> > Richard Coleman writes: > : M. Warner Losh wrote: > : > : > : I agree. termcap.small is amazingly uncurrent. However, perhaps some > : > : merging and reducing is in order. Why is a full cons25 or vt2xx needed? > : > : vi only needs a few capabilities. I think we mostly use copies of large > : > : termcap entries because copying the whole things is easier. > : > > : > You have a good point. My termcap was done so that we could run a > : > number of applications... > : > > : > Grepping seems unsatisfying to find out which keys are used. Do you > : > have a list? nvi/cl/cl_bsd.c has a possibly complete enough list in its terminfo translation table. > : Is the extra maintenance worth it to save a few hundred bytes? Probably not, if this is mainly for use by rescue on larger (multi-megabyte) disks. I used an 8K termcap on 1200MB floppy rescue disks many years ago, > Generating them automatically can be kind of difficult. termcap > doesn't change that often. As someone pointed out, ed is sufficient. It's all we had on the root partition. I remember how to use it mainly from using it there. Bruce