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Date:      Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:42:10 -0300
From:      "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Making a dynamically-linked root
Message-ID:  <3EDDF732.1060606@tcoip.com.br>
In-Reply-To: <3EDD81A4.B6F83135@mindspring.com>
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Terry Lambert wrote:
> Mike Makonnen wrote:
> 
>>2. What happens if I hose one of the libraries?
> 
> I always love this one.  The same thing that happens if you hose
> your shell, any of your kernel modules get corruptes, you hose
> your kernel, you hose any of the files that the boot loader looks
> in before actually loading the kernel, you hose init, or you hose
> mount, or any one of dozens of other files.
> 
> It's not like linking shared gives you any kind of statistically
> significant increase in the number of single points of failure or
> the overall MTBF for the overall system.

It doesn't? If /bin/sh is hosed, I use /bin/csh. If /bin/ls is hosed, I 
use 'echo *'. If /boot/kernel/kernel gets hosed, I use 
/boot/kernel.old/kernel. If a module gets hosed, I don't load it or use 
the one in kernel.old. And so forth.

If libc gets hosed, *ALL* programs stop working.

So, I did not have any single point of failure for single file 
corruption before. Now I do. But you claim there was not significant 
increase, statistically speaking. Could you please point out what am I 
missing?

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