From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Apr 6 23:40:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6210037C210 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17513 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id IAA35624 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:40:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ED737C114 for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA39777; Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200004070640.XAA39777@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh In-Reply-To: <200004070609.AAA97669@harmony.village.org> from Warner Losh at "Apr 7, 2000 00:09:22 am" To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: arch@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [CC: trimmed to -arch] > In message <200004070553.WAA39643@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: > : Trust me I would notice the mis-features. Once installed tcsh 'cas I was > : told how great it was. Riped it out 4 hours later due to incompatibilities > : with these 40 year old, 20 year BSD csh trained fingers of mine would keep > : typing things that tcsh didn't like. > > I noticed that tcsh used to be much less compatible with csh than it > is today. Several years (1989) ago I installed it and went nuts with > the subtle differences. Tried it again a little later (1991) and have > been hooked ever since. The second time I tried it I didn't even Last time I tried it was in 1993, after the FreeBSD project started, well after you had ``been hooked'' :-) > notice that it was tsch, and the release notes specifically stated > that much work had been done to make it BSD csh compatible. Before it > felt combatible[sic] with system V csh, which I believe was a 4.1 or > earlier csh (but the ethno-cyberhistorians will tell me if I'm wrong). It still felt like sysVish csh to me in '93... > > Maybe it might be worth trying out for a few hours over the next day > or two the latest tsch and see if it is still I'll give you the benifit of a doubt... ports on the way to my scratch box incase it does something stupid with one of my wild command line History Substitutions and decides to newfs/rm/dd the wrong things... > : It also would not grok my prompt env setting either... > > I don't recall that bug. As an experiment, I just ripped out my "if > I'm running in tcsh, do xXX" code and it seemed to look just like > csh. Complete with the whacked out alaises that I have for changing > the prompt based on the dir I'm in. > > : I don't :-) At least we agree to disagree :-) > > True. But at least we're talking about what we disagree on. And not just doing the me too thing all the others seem to enjoy doing during these types of threads... (Sorry to beat this issue so much, but I've now seen at least 6 of them with 0 technical content, one even asking if his vote still counted... -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message