From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 13 19:21:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A90F37B400 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [208.162.254.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A8A43E4A for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 19:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from pooh.int (mail@pooh.int [10.0.1.2]) by kanga.honeypot.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8E2LGEe000379 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:21:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kirk by pooh.int with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 17q2Ye-0000sz-00 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:21:16 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are messages to this list appearing in *.freebsd.questions ng's? References: <1031910439.510.5.camel@jupiter> <87ptvixd94.fsf@pooh.int> <1031963599.262.19.camel@jupiter> From: Kirk Strauser Date: 13 Sep 2002 21:21:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1031963599.262.19.camel@jupiter> Message-ID: <87r8fxia5f.fsf@pooh.int> Lines: 51 X-Mailer: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2002-09-14T00:33:14Z, Crispin Bennett writes: > You only need one counter-example to disprove a generalisation. I'm it, > therefore "everyone" does *not* get spam. I used to, until I started > being extremely careful where I used my 'real' address and who I gave it > to. Welcome to "everyone". :) > I use many email lists, and have never had my address leak out in this way > before, so didn't consider it a danger. I understand your disappointment - I truly do. It's just that these things happen, and there's not much to be done about it. > It's something of an elitist assumption to make that everyone runs a > mailserver. I don't. The great majority of Internet users don't. It's not elitist at all to think that someone on the mailing list for what many (if not most) people consider to be a server OS, whose hostname looks very similar to their username, might be running a mailserver. > It's also irrelevant to the spam problem, as far as I'm concerned. If I'm > filtering spam, it's already reached me over the wire. At that point, the > bandwidth-theft has already occurred. I've made the same arguments in a hundred forums. I'm with you 100%. That doesn't change the fact that we don't live in an ideal world, so we sometimes have to adopt other coping strategies. >> Face it, Crispin, you can't hide. > I have up to now. I will again. And you'll be found again. Unless you never contact anyone, anywhere, your email address will eventuall leak out. > I will not waste my time administering a mail server for the two people > who use email on my home network. There are professionals out there who do > it better than I would. You'll have to believe me when I say that, in my experience, most of the people on list list are either professional system administrators or serious hobbiests who do this stuff for fun (or both, for that matter). I guessed (incorrectly as it turns out) that you were in one of those groups. Best of luck! -- Kirk Strauser The Strauser Group - http://www.strausergroup.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message