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Date:      Sat, 16 May 1998 11:32:24 -0400
From:      Randall Hopper <rhh@ct.picker.com>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Rescanning SCSI-Bus without Rebooting?
Message-ID:  <19980516113224.A10553@ct.picker.com>
In-Reply-To: <355CDE1B.6201DD56@whistle.com>; from Julian Elischer on Fri, May 15, 1998 at 05:30:19PM -0700
References:  <19980514220155.B20919@ct.picker.com> <Pine.BSF.3.95.980514192123.12079A-100000@current1.whistle.com> <19980515192717.A8491@ct.picker.com> <355CDE1B.6201DD56@whistle.com>

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Julian Elischer:
 |Randall Hopper wrote:
 |>    SCENARIO 1 : SCANNER OFF, BOOT UP FREEBSD, THEN TURN SCANNER ON
 |>       # dmesg | grep uk0
 |>       # echo < /dev/uk0
 |>       /dev/uk0: Device not configured.
 |>       # scsi -f /dev/uk0 -d 255
 |use scsi -f /dev/rsd0 -r
 |
 |remember WHAT scsi device you use is irrelevant. you just need one
 |that IS there.. (any one).

Oh! [light goes on], OK.  Thanks.  Now I see the disconnect.  

Specifying an already-attached device to reprobe another device not yet
attached seemed so odd it just didn't even register.

I just tried this, and this will work for my situation.  I have a ZIP on
sd0, but unfortunately I have to go dig up a disk to stick in it for "scsi
-f /dev/rsd0 -r" not to return "Device not configured".

Now that we're on the same page, you may find my trials getting here a bit
amusing, and possibly could help me with where I've gone wrong trying to
get -p to work (sounds like that's the best option):

  1. Earlier in the this thread, you mentioned:

     |use the scsi -r command. you will need to use it against an already
     |existing device, e.g. /dev/rsd0
     |man 8 scsi
 
     By existing, I thought you meant that the special device file existed
     in /dev).  Not that a physical device had been probed and successfully
     attached to the existing device file (and in the ZIPs case, that a
     disk had been loaded).

  2. In scsi(8), it says this "-r" form of scsi isn't needed in FreeBSD >=
     2.1 since "opening a fixed SCSI device has the side effect of
     reprobing it".

     When I reopened the wired-down /dev/uk0, no such reprobe/attach
     seemed to occur -- it was still "Device not configured".
 
  3. scsi(8) goes on to say in the reprobe paragraph:

          and probing with the bus with the -p option should bring on line
          any newly found devices.  See scsi(4) for a description of fixed
          scsi devices.

     a. (nit) scsi(4) didn't even contain the word fixed.
     
     b. Following up on -p (mentioned above), scsi(8) also goes on to say:

          The -p option can be used against the "super scsi" device
          /dev/scsi/super to probe all devices with a given SCSI lun on a
          given SCSI bus.  The bus can be selected with the -b option and
          the default is 0.  The lun can be selected with the -l option and
          the default is 0.  See scsi(4) for a description of the "super
          scsi" device.

     c. It sounded like -p was what I wanted.  So to try -p, I built a
        kernel with SuperSCSI ("su" & "ssc"), but I couldn't figure out how
        to mknod the "scsi/super" SuperSCSI device.  There was no reference
        to it in MAKEDEV.

        So I'm not sure how to use -p, or if it still works.  Brian Somers
        mentioned it earlier in this thread I noticed, so I assume there's
        "some" way to use it.

 |if not try the device ssc (if you configured it in) After that you can
 |use uk..

This sounds like it'd be the best option for me (so I don't have to go find
a ZIP disk to load into my ZIP drive to be able to use "scsi -r").

So I guess my question here is, what device file path do I specify for the
"scsi -p" command line?:

     # scsi -f /dev/uk0 -p -b 0 -l 6
     scsi: unable to open device /dev/uk0: Device not configured
     # scsi -f /dev/rsd0 -p -b 0 -l 6
     scsi: unable to open device /dev/rsd0: Device not configured
     # cd /dev
     /dev # sh MAKEDEV ssc
     ssc - no such device name
     /dev # sh MAKEDEV scsi/super
     scsi/super - no such device name
     /dev # ls -l ssc* scsi/*
     ls: No match.

Thanks.  I appreciate your help!

Randall

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